Game client CTD, but Server fine.

adoxa

Okay, after spending too much time on it, let’s hope this version improves things. You’ll now also find EXE\alchemy.txt, which logs what is loaded (sort of):

0A56E704 li_contrail_Cube.emt   fx\misc\li_contrail.ale
0A5C4A8C li_contrail.app        fx\misc\li_contrail.ale
0A56E518 li_contrail 
0A5C4008 li_contrail 
0A5C67E8 li_contrail 
0A5C69A0 li_contrail 

```There'll be lots of files at the start, followed by lots more without files. Of course, it seems it's the file-less ones that will get logged in bad:

2011-06-08 22:34:17.687: 0A5C4014 li_contrail
2011-06-08 22:34:17.687: 0A56E51C li_contrail
2011-06-08 22:34:17.687: 0A5C69AC li_contrail
2011-06-08 22:34:17.687: 0A5C67EC li_contrail

NeXoSE

Thanks a lot adoxa for pay time to helping me. I will try this.

And i got something captrued in log file, maybe useful? here is:

E:\FL\Scratch\Source\Client\cmn\RenderMgr.cpp(576) : *** WARNING: RenderMgr - failed to create_buffers(800,600) -1,-1
E:\FL\Scratch\Source\Client\cmn\RenderMgr.cpp(576) : *** WARNING: RenderMgr - failed to create_buffers(800,600) -1,-1
E:\FL\Scratch\Source\Client\cmn\RenderMgr.cpp(576) : *** WARNING: RenderMgr - failed to create_buffers(800,600) -1,-1
E:\FL\Scratch\Source\Client\cmn\RenderMgr.cpp(576) : *** WARNING: RenderMgr - failed to create_buffers(800,600) -1,-1
E:\FL\Scratch\Source\Client\cmn\RenderMgr.cpp(576) : *** WARNING: RenderMgr - failed to create_buffers(800,600) -1,-1
E:\FL\Scratch\Source\Client\cmn\RenderMgr.cpp(576) : *** WARNING: RenderMgr - failed to create_buffers(800,600) -1,-1
C:\work\builds\dalibs\dalibs-build\build\Src\WavLib\wavlib.cpp(32) : ERROR:General:StreamingSound: missing MP3 codec?
C:\work\builds\dalibs\dalibs-build\build\Src\WavLib\wavlib.cpp(32) : ERROR:General:StreamingSound: missing MP3 codec?
C:\work\builds\dalibs\dalibs-build\build\Src\WavLib\wavlib.cpp(32) : ERROR:General:StreamingSound: missing MP3 codec?
C:\work\builds\dalibs\dalibs-build\build\Src\WavLib\wavlib.cpp(32) : ERROR:General:StreamingSound: missing MP3 codec?
C:\work\builds\dalibs\dalibs-build\build\Src\WavLib\wavlib.cpp(32) : ERROR:General:StreamingSound: missing MP3 codec?
C:\work\builds\dalibs\dalibs-build\build\Src\WavLib\wavlib.cpp(32) : ERROR:General:StreamingSound: missing MP3 codec?
C:\work\builds\dalibs\dalibs-build\build\Src\WavLib\wavlib.cpp(32) : ERROR:General:StreamingSound: missing MP3 codec?
E:\FL\Scratch\Source\Client\cmn\RenderMgr.cpp(576) : *** WARNING: RenderMgr - failed to create_buffers(800,600) -1,-1
E:\FL\Scratch\Source\Client\cmn\RenderMgr.cpp(576) : *** WARNING: RenderMgr - failed to create_buffers(800,600) -1,-1
E:\FL\Scratch\Source\Client\cmn\RenderMgr.cpp(576) : *** WARNING: RenderMgr - failed to create_buffers(800,600) -1,-1
E:\FL\Scratch\Source\Client\cmn\RenderMgr.cpp(576) : *** WARNING: RenderMgr - failed to create_buffers(800,600) -1,-1
E:\FL\Scratch\Source\Client\cmn\RenderMgr.cpp(576) : *** WARNING: RenderMgr - failed to create_buffers(800,600) -1,-1
E:\FL\Scratch\Source\Client\cmn\RenderMgr.cpp(576) : *** WARNING: RenderMgr - failed to create_buffers(800,600) -1,-1

adoxa

I think the RenderMgr ones occur when you switch to desktop in MP (since the game keeps running, unlike SP).
MP3 codec fix.

NeXoSE

adoxa wrote:
I think the RenderMgr ones occur when you switch to desktop in MP (since the game keeps running, unlike SP).
MP3 codec fix.

I’m sorry, still no idea, but i believe i going to the wrong way. Maybe the problem is hardware related or because i do too many hex editing? I don’t know.

I modded the plugin and edited the Log function to make it just return 0 if fail and pluged in, the game very stable since that.

Anyway i will still try to solve it. And adoxa, thank you so much on this, you are my saver.

adoxa

Did the new alchemy plugin still just report unknown? The addresses were no help? Mind attaching/emailing so I can have a look?

NeXoSE

adoxa wrote:
Did the new alchemy plugin still just report unknown? The addresses were no help? Mind attaching/emailing so I can have a look?

No, adoxa…. it’s no reporting anything this time, The alchemy.txt has been created and logging, but alchemy-04034C-bad.txt still not create…

EDIT:
I do nothing to the game, do nothing to the system, do nothing to the mod, i don’t even re-active it… how it be?

When i replace it with the old one, i still got null.

AND here is some new discover:

I still backup my mod and upload it to MS skydrive cloud. Today i download the previous backup, backuped 3 weeks before, it’s works very good without any problem even with out the plugin. I will test it tonight.

adoxa

Argh, I’m an idiot! This version should do what I said.

NeXoSE

After a whole night testing….it’s no any report still.

Actually, after i replaced the backup file, CTD is gone.

I got a strange condition, the EXEs and Dlls in that backup file is no too many different to the newest (or broken) one.

For more test, i restore the broken exes\dlls to EXE dir, plug the plugin (the first one that report null), and run. 6 hrs passed, i back here check log, this time still no report anything.

So that’s means the CTD is gone? mysterious? Anyway i will going to continue modding and test it. If any new situation i will here reply.

Thank you for helping me adoxa. I’m very admire for your endeavor.

AestheticDemon

EArlier in the thread, you mentioned that you hadnt changed the effects ale’s for the weapons, just the ones for a trade ring? Is there a trade ring near the gate where you were watching the fight?

No problems while they are fighting, but, when a random tradelane spawned merchant arrives in the middle of the firefight, (while you were off getting food), BANG ctd… bad tradelane effect?

alternativly, have you updated hardware recently, new graphics card, new directx version, I was getting cdt’s, didnt seem to have anything to do with any of the changes I had just put in, but they ALWAYS happened near a tradelane entry or exit point, some hardware related weirdness when a ship wopuld arrive by tl or attempt to leave the area by tl, and the thing would just ctd, something about trying to render the effect in your viewport just knocked it over (and this was with vanilla lane effects, so not an ale problem at all)

FL’s engine is old and doesnt understand all the new graphics cards around these days, even the graphics config updates are not up with all the latest cards. Your mod might be fine, it might just be a problem with the modern graphics card, especially as the server, which doesnt use graphics, is ok…

FriendlyFire

Sorry but that is a myth

The reason for the list’s existence is in fact to support ancient GPUs that LACKED features that were considered standard in FL’s time. If you look at the file’s contents, you’ll note that they mostly contain flags that mark features which should be disable, or bugs that need to be worked around.

New GPUs have none of these problems, having full support for DirectX 8. As long as the GPU does that, it will always run the game without issues. There can be problems related to GPUs, but if anything they will be caused by forced settings (one good example is Catalyst AI on ATi/AMD cards, which must be taken off for FL to run properly) in the GPU’s control panel, not compatibility issues.

Thus, apart from FL complaining it doesn’t know the card, you shouldn’t have issues with it. I know I’ve never encountered such an issue on either my computers or others’, and I have rather… recent hardware.

AestheticDemon

So… what else might cause a ctd when an npc uses a tradelane in your camera view…

Bearing in mind, on my system the fx are still strictly vanilla for this…

Win 7 related?

drive read error on a dll?

Tricky one to answer.

FriendlyFire

Considering the wealth of information you’ve given to diagnose the issue, anything I would say would be pure speculation on my part.