StarTrader wrote:
You think they snaffled him away?

Yeah, if a community starts feeding the local wildlife enough they’ll eventually stop being afraid of humans, and it’s not uncommon for bears to raid animal cages to find food.

Don’t feed the trolls.

Well, fortunately, this is going to be one of the biggest years of Hurricanes, at least as many as 2005. So that means that the Oil won’t be in the ocean for very long because soon it will all be in the Southern United States, and even better than that is that Hurricanes usually accompany tornadoes. The good thing about that is that they will be oil tornadoes, and chances are they will hit power lines, causing a spark, which will cause the oil to ignite which will mean that flaming tornadoes will descend upon Louisiana, Alabama, George, Mississippi, Florida, etc.

Pretty much all of the worst States in the US are going to be destroyed by flaming tornadoes while it’s flooding. I don’t see the problem here.

I’m glad that this could be resolved. It always sucks when you use resources in a project (or your own entirely) and someone claims it as their own for no or very arbitrary reasons.

Xarian_Prime wrote:
This was a legit ask where we had “seen” this pic… not who’s getting screwed outa what royaltys… ect

Yeah, I know, that’s why I told him that the picture is “Distant Shores” by Christoph Gerber, Copyright 2003. But it’s very important to stress that he would need the original author’s permission to use the picture because nobody likes having their work stolen, or claimed by other people. I have had it happen to me, and it is a very unpleasant experience, I can assure you. I am just looking out for my fellow creators, you see.

Xarian_Prime wrote:
Thats Gizmo studios (Gibbon’s) web backdrop…

I’m sorry, but that is clearly “Distant Shores” by Christoph Gerber, Copyright 2003. You can attribute it to this “Gizmo Studios” as much as you want, but that doesn’t change the fact that the copyright for the creation is held by Christoph Gerber, and any reproductions of without his written consent are illegal.

This picture is called “Distant Shores” by Christoph Gerber, Copyright 2003. I guess it’s illegal to use it in your mod, huh.

StarTrader wrote:
BearClaws is the same person as at least one of the others, if not all of them, you twits!

Go ahead and analyze our grammar and word choice, I’m sure you will find that we are all, in fact, separate individuals. Except for maybe two people.

Bas wrote:
Ok, let’s assume he is doing this. Does he delete the articles, wiki or what ever? NO, the service provider(s) actually do(es). If he reports your mod to the moddb.com staff, then the staff, NOT HE, decides if the article gets deleted or not.

So actually there WAS a reason then. And this reason isn’t named OPR8R.

Well, I can’t remember the specifics, but he reported the Wiki for one reason, and our article was deleted for another. Then he claimed that he had deleted our article for the reason originally intended. So yeah, I guess the reason it was deleted was because he reported the page, so the Admins of the service actually bothered to look at it. Not because he personally decided to have it deleted, like he thought.

Gisteron wrote:
also, if we model, let’s say one of the famous starships “Enterprise” they are copyrighted by the modelers, not paramount. the idea, and inspiration might come from them and this might be declared but unless it is a recreation or copy of the very same model they use (and they use only a few as most of the video stuff was made by solid models yet by virtual resources) it is an interpretation of the modeler and is his property even if he declares it to be open source. it remains the time he spent and the power and noone can take that away from him.

I’m pretty sure whoever owns the Star Trek franchise also owns any rights to the depiction of the Enterprise. Through an extension of your logic you would be saying that it’s perfectly fine to completely recreate published books, as long as you make it yourself (that’s illegal).

Anubis wrote:
the model can be created as a mech, non specific to gundam, and still be no IP related. Technicalities, but still. Most of my model work is done seperate from any IP. I then allow someone to use it in their mod as they see fit. My rights are still protected.

So why call it a Gundam mod if it doesn’t use Gundams? Plus, you couldn’t get the arms to move around or swordfight or anything so it’s pretty much a pointless endeavor.

w0dk4 wrote:I think there is a simple reason your mod got banned from one of the biggest and most respected modding communities (moddb.com) and this is simply theft of content. They also pretty recently made a blogpost saying that such behaviour should be reported immediately, because they take the matter very serious.

No, I’m pretty sure it’s because OPR8R is an internet superhero and has some kind of personal vendetta against having fun, so he reports us to every single website we ever use, regardless of if we’re actually violating rules or not. That’s why he tried to get our Wiki shut down, and he did succeed in taking down one article because it violated some obscure rule. It’s back up though, I do believe.

w0dk4 wrote:
Bottom line is, if its based on another IP or not doesnt really matter, if somebody takes a model without permission he should at least give credit to the original author and not call it his own work, which is simply rude.

Pastaspace/Trainwiz did not do that at all when he first announced “his” mod, he just slapped content of other mods together (wow, what an achievement) and called it his own work alltogether (also saying that pretty much all other mods suck, which you guys are still saying, also simply rude).

I’m pretty sure he only took credit for the good part of the mod, not the ripped models.

w0dk4 wrote:
How in the world is that a fair behaviour in any respected modders community?

I don’t know, we would probably have to go find one to find out.

Also, fixed this for you.

w0dk4 wrote:
So its like we are the only place that doesn’t value civilized behaviour when it is about sharing content.

Anubis wrote:
Mods as a whole can count as Derivative Work. Individual components however, do not. I make a model. I let someone use it. They use it in a, say, Gundam Mod. The Gundam Mod is a Derivative Work of the Gundam Universe. My model still holds individual copyright. It’s simple.

Unless your model is a Gundam. Or uses elements from the Freelancer IP. Then it isn’t.

EDIT: Also I don’t remember ever seeing a mod/model that wasn’t copied from an IP or using Freelancer resources, so.

How will u be on top of u only copy content from others?
While doing that u will always be one step behind!

Sorry, but nobody really cares about your magical server ranking competitions, save for you delightful human beings.

HeIIoween wrote:
@Mindhunter wow true irony respect
This guys also need to carefully read the meaning of the word “unique” in the Oxford Dictionary :)))

You need to look up the word “original” as well, I would imagine. All of your precious mods likely count as Derivative Works, and without demonstrating a substantial amount of original content they can’t by copyrighted. I haven’t seen a single mod that actually includes content (except for /v/lancer) that isn’t directly copied from another IP or includes trademarks built upon those IPs, so. The same goes for models that were made for the mod, I would think.

Also, the ironic thing about all of this is that the entire reason this mod started was because we asked for permission to run a private server of another, and were refused for no real reason at all.