@ CK - Definitely consider it, depends on what our options end up being for the weapon classes, we hope to make it more like Freelancer and if so then we will surely have more then a handful of weapon-type based models

@ FF - Not mean at all mate, that’s a useful comment and something we’re well aware of. We haven’t started pushing these models into the really high-detail regime yet because as it stands we only have one dedicated and skilled 3D artist (one thing about modding FL I never really got the hang of), if we don’t get more help then he’ll be producing most of the 60+ ships (all with at least some interior), 2-dozen+ basic station models (again with interiors), planet landing pads, weapon models… better to have ok quality completed mod then amazing quality 1/4 finished mod. If we do get more exposure and contributors then you can bet we’ll max the detail and polish on all aspects of the mod, not just the models.

I think there was a tiny mention somewhere on the Star Citizen site about possibly adding detailed damage physics to SC at some point down the road after release. Can you imagine a Lib Dreadnought ramming another battleship or a station and having bits of each breaking off in real time and real physics? That’s what I’d love to see made possible in the Freelancer universe but to achieve anything at all I have to be realistic.

We have some new shots of concept models for a handful of craft, best place to see them is on ModDB:
http://www.moddb.com/mods/freelancer-unity/images

I’d definitely value your feedback and it goes without saying that if any modders (particularly 3D artists at this stage) want to join the team or contribute then we’d love that.

Thanks for the comments. It is a pretty risky undertaking to start a mod for a game that isn’t finished but I believe that we have a pretty good idea of what SC will be like. Plus, prior to the alpha release of SC we’ll just be chipping away at the very large amount of asset creation.

Enthusiastic responses from plenty of people are definitely spurring us on and are much appreciated

Hey everyone, I thought some of you might be interested in this mod we’re starting for Star Citizen: http://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/forum/showthread.php?18588-Freelancer-Unity-Total-Conversion-Mod

I’d love to have other experienced modders contribute if you’re interested.

Yes it’s true, I was inexpert at messing with encounter zones back then and our modding team was drying up so I didn’t have the play-test team I would have liked (to say the least). I’m working with Thunder and his gang to try and achieve some extra stability for their server though.

I agree with CK, Mod Studio is a less invasive program and the 3D viewer is pretty damn good.

As rsabatino and CK said, it sounds like you’re missing a universe.ini [BASE] entry for your base. Also not having [BaseGood] entries for your base in the market_commodities.ini, market_misc.ini and market_ships.ini (from Data\Equipment folder) can cause problems.

The only thing I would suggest is making it a solar that has some custom gun/missile mounts or some such, re-named to look like loot. When they shoot the model to get the loot it goes hostile and shoots back with some big-hitters. If you make custom weapon entries for the weapons you could make them invisible if you want to increase confusion, and if you give the wreck a unique faction then it’ll always be neutral prior to the player shooting it.
Best idea I can come up with that doesn’t involve bucket loads of work.

I tried what you suggested Bejaymac but it didn’t change anything

This is a limited FLMT extract from the sur file info;

Surface      :
CenterX      : 0.003736	 CenterY : 1.570029	 CenterZ : 0.552517
InertiaX     : 200.000000	 InertiaY : 200.000000	 InertiaZ : 200.000000
Radius       : 15.248461
unknown byte : 0xFA             - (250 decimal 11111010 binary)
Offset1b     : 0x133C   (4924) - always identical to surface_header.offset1
padding byte : 0x00             - Always 0
Offset2      : 0x00001320       - Offset to bit header
Padding3     : 0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000    - Always 0

When fired apon the hitbox seems to work fine, each section of the ship registers hits correctly and there are no extra sections that don’t correspond to the CMP. The only two visible issues seem to be the ‘target box’ around the un-selected ships and the ranges that the ships register at so it’s not a critical issue, just a really big pain.

That’s a familiar name from way back in my first days of MP Freelancer Hi.

You’re refering to this information I gleaned from FLModel right?

Bounding box info : x1 4.599092 x2 -4.591620 y1 7.340136 y2 -4.200078 z1 13.898084 z2 -12.793049 Center : 0.003736 1.570029 0.552517 Radius : 15.248461

FLMM isn’t perfect so it’s likely that the SP crashes are the result of the imperfect install, and on the odd occasion downloads can be corrupted too.

The first step is to do a completely clean install of both freelancer and the mod (make sure you have your MP ID backed up if you play MP).

If you still have this problem then try un-zipping the mod without FLMM, all the instructions for this are on our site here: http://freelancer-swwt.com/Forum/index.php?topic=8.0

If that doesn’t work you can re-download the mod and try the above suggestions again. If that doesn’t work let me know.

There is also a tech support forum on the SW:WT website which I check more often the the Starport if you still need help.

Yeah, I already followed the instructions from the second half of this tutorial (ironically by Forsaken, lol):
http://the-starport.net/freelancer/forum/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1002&forum=26

It didn’t change anything unfortunately. Would it help if I posted up the text from FLModelTool? Like I said, it’s gobeldygook to me.

Would it be too much trouble if I asked for a screen shot of a sur open in FLModel pointing out exactly which lines need changing? I’ve never worked with sur files before so when I have the sur open it means virtually nothing to me.

Some sur files were need for some new ships being implemented however I and the others on the particular project didn’t have access to the original files for the ships, just the CMPs (the original modler is exceedingly hard to reach these days). One of the shipwrights tried making new sur files using the CMPs (I’m afraid I forgot to ask exactly what program he used) and one of them had the following issue:

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7938/screen271j.jpg

The fighter selected in this picture is obviously not 0 distance away, and the target-box around the fighter that is next to the one that is selected is large and annoying, which I think may be a symptom of the incorrect distance.
The first thing we tried was getting another shipwright to try several times to make new sur files, but there was no change. We copied the sur for one of the other new fighters that wasn’t presenting this issue (they are the ones visible on the right of the screen shot) and replaced the seemingly faulty one with that one and it started showing the same problem. The next test was to use the sur from a vanilla ship and that one did fix the issue.

So, I think it’s definitely a sur issue but it seems to be something about the new sur files (again I’m sorry I forgot to ask the shipwrights for more detail as to how they made them) that is specifically reacting to that one ship.
This is the point at which we started really scratching out heads so I thought I’d post here asking if any more experienced people could provide some tips. Anyone?

Hi all, I generally go by Carnifex. Been playing Freelancer online for the last few years starting out on the old Asgard mod.
I’ve been learning to mod since the start of 2011 (mostly ini files and the odd texture but I tend to be a jack of all trades), currently I’m the Development Admin on the SW Mod which is why I’m here, where the cool stuff seems to be happening. I’m looking forward to seeing all the talent here and learning from much more experienced people then myself.