Yeah you shouldn’t use it without his permission. Using obviously copyrighted content is wrong.

This post is a reply to everything Bas has said

I JUST USED PHOTOSHOP TO CREATE DEPICTIONS OF THE NEXT PLAYSTATION, XBOX, AND WII. I NOW LEGALLY OWN THE COPYRIGHTS TO ALL OF THESE PRODUCTS BECAUSE I AM AUTOMATICALLY GRANTED LEGAL COPYRIGHT STATUS THE SECOND I DRAW THEM AND NEVER HAVE TO APPLY FOR PATENTS AND COPYRIGHTS.

Now do you see how stupid and flawed your logic is? NONE of us on /v/lancer EVER claimed this was our own work. We will NEVER claim these models are ours. The community of Freelancer made this #$%%, and by god we are going to use them in a mod that doesn’t suck.

edotan: Also I would like to point out that /v/lancer never started this shitty thread. It was you guys trolling us, but we are just better at trolling.

Bold text does not make you correct.

Green text does.

I hereby request you submit legally documented proof of your copyright on said models that you do not want in /v/lancer. They must be signed and dated BEFORE they were ever uploaded to the internet, or else they become fair use. You can’t upload something, then months later apply for a copyright, and have it be valid.

Anubis wrote:
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hey, modeler here.

Just my two bits. When I make something, I usually have a purpose for it. Now first, I consider 3d modeling an art form, so do a lot of other people, including the US Gov’t.

So, when someone makes any model, at least for a US citizen and any country aligned with the US copyright law, that model is immediately covered by copyright law, no matter what the intention of use is for. Unless, of course, it was made before 1989… then it has to carry a copyright symbol.

ANYWAYS.

What I’m making clear here, is that a 3d Model is covered in both US and International Copyright law. Whether or not someone wants to spend the money to pursue you for Infringement is up to them. I guess in the end it’s totally up to you if you want to risk a lawsuit or not.

Also, dont give me any #$%% about /v/. I’m a #$%% /b/tard, been one since 1975. Deal with it.

Sorry. The Berne Convention doesn’t apply to things like Mods and Fanfiction. It is also against Freelancers EULA to reverse engineer models to work with said commercial game.

Your entire argument is invalid in the face of cold, hard legal facts.

EDIT: For those who don’t believe me, check the EULA.RTF in the Freelancer directory.

·Limitations on Reverse Engineering, Decompilation, and Disassembly. You may not reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the SOFTWARE PRODUCT, except and only to the extent that such activity is expressly permitted by applicable law notwithstanding this limitation.

tl;dr Modding of freelancer in general is illegal and you cannot copyright anything you make for it. Therefore it is all subject to the U.S. Fair Use laws.

Pastaspace wrote:

Implying mods of any other type actually survive
Implying a bunch of active players didn’t decide to make this mod because every other mod was awful

I have to agree. The reason /v/lancer exists is because every single one of the 20+ modding team was sick of how bad and terribly put together every other mod was.

w0dk4 wrote:
The moment you create a model, you have a copyright on that model, no matter what it will be used for.
Of course non-profit uses of copyrighted models are hard to go after in a legal way. .

I’m sorry but no. I fully expect to be banned for this post, but it will be worth it entirely.

First, I suggest you look up the term Fair Use, and pull your head out of your ass.

Second of all, your statement has no legal backing whatsoever. Not to mention that there is no such thing as a “Gentlemen’s Agreement” That is just blatantly the most retarded thing I have ever heard. I for one, am glad we can’t advertise /v/lancer on this site, because everyone here is babbies. Real men don’t whine about ONNOEHEUSEDMYMODELTOMAKEAGAMEFUNFOREVERYONE. They sit the #$%% down and have fun with bros. This is why /v/lancer will forever be funner then SWWT and PURPLE. It’s made by bros, for bros.

I don’t want to sound like a troll, but I’m not sure it’s even possible to copyright a model made for a game. Since it is Microsoft’s game, and you are not Microsoft, you have no legal right to modify the game to begin with. Anyone who makes models for freelancer, then distributes them to the community via mods, and then complains when other modders use them in their own mods is a bit hypocritical. You can’t put something up for free on the internet and complain when people use it. You can’t steal anything that is free.