Hosting, what do you pay for it.
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Why you all rent a server in a datacenter?
What’s the improvement of that?Why should that be better than having the server at your home?
Maybe exept the bandtwith……Well, low pings for starters, home connections allways have a few steps more before it gets to the server, than there is the over booking. Most home connections are 40 to 1 on one line, in other words, if you have a 10 mbit connection you have to share that with 40 others.
Servers at data centers most of the time are central the point where the ISP’s get together or its connected to fast peering partners to shorten the hops.
Home servers are ok when you only have players from the same country or same ISP, once you want players from other continents you have a problem.
Than there is the location of the data center, when choosing a location you have to think about the players you would expect on your server to serve them with the lowest ping possible. If you expect US people choose a good location in the US, a location where a lot of ISP’s come together like NY or LA, maybe Dalas or in Canada vancouver or Toronto.
UK london is the place, even Euro players can connect good to those server.
Hosting a good server all has to do with good pings, FL uses not that much bandwidth but with a large PVP player base pikes of 5 to 10 mbit is ver common, and most home connections don’t offer that. -
3 servers atm
1. opteron 1275,2x500gb hdd, 4gbram, Windows Server 2003, 8 IP’s, 100Mbps, 170€ per month, no traffic limit
2. xp64, 2gbram, 500gbhdd, 8ips, 100Mbps, no traffic limit, 70€ per month
3. backup server (for free), 500gb hdd
monthly traffic is between 500 and 600gb atm
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3 servers atm
1. opteron 1275,2x500gb hdd, 4gbram, Windows Server 2003, 8 IP’s, 100Mbps, 170€ per month, no traffic limit
2. xp64, 2gbram, 500gbhdd, 8ips, 100Mbps, no traffic limit, 70€ per month
3. backup server (for free), 500gb hdd
monthly traffic is between 500 and 600gb atm
lol, than there are allways people who have more, nice setups OP.
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@Worfeh: Thanks for your reply
About the sharing, that’s correct. 2 weeks ago whe had problems with our line, and the provider told us that from the 40:1 stuff…
This was something i never knew.Our server stands in The Netherlands. People from Canada and America have a ping around the 135.
The provider we use have a lower ping. My other line has a higher ping.
The max i could reach with the adsl is 9 mb.
I have tought about renting a server, but i think we have to less players to pay that big money every month.If i look to the Discovery server, withs 1000’s players, than it’s worth the money.
For now, i deside to stay on the homeserver.
It’s not 100% i know, but i try to get a best performance and a best hardware stuff i could get.
We are waiting till we get glassfiber in our area. But nobody know’s when it’s coming. They say that the whole city from us, must be ready in 2010. True or false, nobody knowsAnd it’s not really that bad as homeserver, so….;)
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@Worfeh: Thanks for your reply
About the sharing, that’s correct. 2 weeks ago whe had problems with our line, and the provider told us that from the 40:1 stuff…
This was something i never knew.Our server stands in The Netherlands. People from Canada and America have a ping around the 135.
The provider we use have a lower ping. My other line has a higher ping.
The max i could reach with the adsl is 9 mb.
I have tought about renting a server, but i think we have to less players to pay that big money every month.If i look to the Discovery server, withs 1000’s players, than it’s worth the money.
For now, i deside to stay on the homeserver.
It’s not 100% i know, but i try to get a best performance and a best hardware stuff i could get.
We are waiting till we get glassfiber in our area. But nobody know’s when it’s coming. They say that the whole city from us, must be ready in 2010. True or false, nobody knowsAnd it’s not really that bad as homeserver, so….;)
I live in the netherlands as well. And even tho we are one of the countries who have highest geographical bandwidth occupation ADSL is still a main issue regarding upload speed. The 9mb you get is for download, the upload is max 1mbit. Cable is somewhat better and they now offer 60 mbit lines up and download (i believe) in certain area’s on cable. The fibers look nice but when you invensigate it a bit closer you’ll find out that the sharing is up to 1:100, I know cos 2 of my companies have that and i pay a great deal of cash to get the sharing to 1:10 and still we sometimes have issues with that. Otherwise i could host this site on one of those lines, but i don’t want to compromise business with private stuff.
I do use a test server on those lines for FL testing tho, and the archived site used to run on a capped line for a while there. -
MU currently runs on:
Dual-Core AMD Opteron
1024 Mb RAM
2*160 Gb SATA HD
100 Mbit up- and downstream linkLocated in germany, It costs us 89 Euros per month.
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Erm, I may add:
We run the Opteron Dragnite mentioned and another:
Opteron dual core
2048Mb of RAM
320 GiG HD
100 Mbit up / downstream
unlimited traffic
Debian Linuxlocated in northern France
It hosts our website and provides the SVN system base for the developers plus the autoupdater files for our players
Traffic per month: around 25 - 145 Gig (depends on update frequency and size)oh, it costs 26,50 Euro per month
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Ohh, anyone looking for cheap ass servers on a decent connection.
Just found this, http://www.worldstream.nl/home
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so it seems most people use contracted hosting for their servers, anyone ever used co-location hosting? if you dont know what it is check here http://www.webhostgear.com/18.html
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so it seems most people use contracted hosting for their servers, anyone ever used co-location hosting? if you dont know what it is check here http://www.webhostgear.com/18.html
Yes. i have used colocation hosting.
The funny part is that colocation is allmost just as expensive as renting a full server. With renting a full server you most of the time get loads more and the price is like 10% more.
With colocation you also have the problem that you have to maintain the hardware, support you can’t ask because the OS you installed is yours, and with colo the support is most of the time expensive.The next downside is the investment you have to make before you drop a server in a cabinet. You will have to buy a 1U server, and the hardware for that format is a bit more expensive, that there is the coise of hardware ofcourse and you are responsible yourself for the hardware. If it breaks you are responsible for fixing it and not the colo hoster, this is ok when you live nearby but in my case i have to drive for 1.5 hours to put a power cable backin the colo support “accidentaly” plugged out.
Colocation is nice once you have a whole bunch of servers, or when you want a server with a redicules amount of storrage.
But just for hosting a service, game a dedicated server or even a VPS would be my preference. -
i didnt have to pay for anything except my electric bill i have only 1 gigbyte for my web site free from comcast but they are getting tight on the bandwith usage. so my electric bill was about 60 dollars now since i dont run two computers anymore 40 dollars. so yeah i does cost alot of money running a server far more than people think. thats why i dont do it anymore. i have more fun playing on someone elses server. gilactia 2.0 rocks.