BIOCROSS PUBLIC BETA!!!
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ok i cant use your program because my sql server gets stuck in the middle of the install
I would honestly love to help you, but because that’s a Microsoft Product I really have no idea what is going on, unless your on Vista or Win7 then make sure your running as administrator.
Perhaps a screen on where it is getting stuck and your system Specs and we can get to the bottom of this
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I am now going to start posting updates and things at my FL-Forge page - please head over there for future patches, let’s keep this stuff off the forums…
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Microsoft are known for resource hungry installers - perhaps it is worth leaving it on in the background while doing other things for as long as possible I would say after about 10 - 20 minutes you can safely say the installer is broken…
At which point does it freeze/take forever?
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Honestly, thats the reason I was asking why you did not use a different database. I know their database installation very often takes a ridiculous amount of time (had it on several machines) and it takes up way to much disk space considering the purpose of the whole thing. I don’t how much special features you use, but I never had much trouble switching between databases, since the common used methods are present in the most sql databases and the syntax is mostly even the same.
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Installation of the most basic SQL Express edition is extremely quick even on my laptop and is only 40-60MB depending on additional features…
It works fine when it is just the SQL Service active, there is no need for management studio or any other advanced tools… I have never had a bad experience with SQL Server 2005
2008 on the other hand is a different story…
A few of my stored procedures use SQL Statements which are only present in Microsoft’s SQL Server unfortunately, the class I wrote into BioHelper.dll also only works for Microsoft’s SQL Servers… It’s a really difficult change at this late a point, Biocross however was designed generally for mid performance machines and was tested mainly in a Server environment…
Perhaps later on after final release I will write a low performance version of Biocross which will use SQLLite - until then I am sorry to all those with older machines
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my problem was i had register at the site first http://www.microsoft.com/Sqlserver/2005/en/us/express-down.aspx
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Just for fun I did a test on an old root server (celeron 1,2ghz, 256 mb ram). SQL 2005 Express took about 10 Minutes to install, not bad (I’ve had over 30 minutes on some machines not that old, different sql server versions). The Problem was the .net stuff, which took about an hour. After the installation it used something more than 200mb on harddisk + nearly 200mb for .net 2.0.
Out of curiosity I downloaded Mysql 5.1 essentials, it took about 2 Minutes to install and consumed about 100 MB of disk space.
Maybe you really should consider using sqlite (or mysql) for older servers, the .net stuff seems to kill the fun (even on newer machines it takes ages to install it, have done it multiple times).
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Even if I use SQLite I would still need the .NET Framework - also Biocross is now configured to run on the .NET Framework 2.0 which comes shipped with XP and Server 2003 so really there is no need to download it at all (you must choose to install it off your XP CD still though as it is optional).
I just tried one line of my SQL Statements against a SQLite database and it turns out I can’t use IF statements in SQLite either which is extremely limiting.
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Gonna have to do like everyone and rely on your C#/VB code to do the logic and only use SQL for data management ;D
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Really the only reason I use IF statements is to check for duplicates and also to check if the table is already created when patching as to not overwrite existing data but both are important checks…
I guess Biocross may not be considered a replacement for Ioncross then, only an alternative maybe it will be better to class Biocross as a tool for larger servers with a big player base, and little servers may benefit more from using Ioncross…
Either that or I spend another year coding Biocross-Lite
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I am a little bit confused, why sqlite would not support IF statements (http://www.sqlite.org/lang_expr.html looks pretty good, even regexp is supported, which I normally use for such stuff) and the list of unsupported features http://www.sqlite.org/omitted.html does not mention in. Anyway, it’s your project, your time and thus your decisions
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I understand why it may be an issue for some of the smaller servers, I just hope they can see past the initial minor annoyances.
Biocross was never originally going to be a full server operator, it was going to be more about the Search and organisation feature, which is no doubt the defining feature of Biocross…
My idea is to release Biocross-Lite which is basically IFSO and it will use SQLite - hopefully the additional features in the normal version such as Player Templates, Easy MP Startup creator and the Admin Notes feature will tempt users to opt for SQL Server…
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**Hopefully this is a fully working version, fixed several bugs, added real names to factions, added a check box to enable/disable the number prefix
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Some people had problems with the zip file, I had compressed it using Deflate64 - the new format will now open with Windows’ built in zip viewer and extraction utility, if you were having difficulties before please try the new zip file.
Thank You
