/v/lancer: A mod for bros by bros
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Pastaspace wrote: As for contacting, we would use it regardless of whether or not they said yes.
Trying to stay out of this but feel drawn to that statement. So by saying that, how is that different from theft?
That is no different than taking someones car without permission, still theft. Personally, if you guys do the decent thing and give proper credit to items used from other mods then this will all blow over. If you don’t then fine, you know where the door is.
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Threads like these are exactly why I never visit any section of 4Chan.
Since I realize that it’s useless to argue with you “bros”, I will simply say that use of someone else’s content without permission is extremely disrespectful. It does not matter where the content came from; the point folks are trying to make here is that when you sink hundreds of hours into creating something, you should be entitled to maintain some sort of ownership about it without someone else stealing it and using it. To make an example that you might be able to actually understand, it’s like writing a long poetic letter to the woman of your dreams - only to have some jackass steal it and give it to her instead. How would you not be a little irritated? (and don’t give me the “lawl why would you put hundreds of hours into a love letter?” crap)
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This is a humorously gray area that is getting tackled here. I’d prefer to stay out of it, and considering the audience, and who is making this, I am willing to just let it all slide. In fact, if you aren’t already, you all are welcome to use my effects if you want.
Also sauce on the first videos music? I know I’ve heard it somewhere before, but I can’t put my finger on it…
http://www.filefront.com/13596807/BigHugeEffectsPackRevised2.rar
THE BIG HUGE EFFECTS PACK
by Brian “Why485″ Hernandez
Each folder contains the files in the effects pack, as well as documentation describing the effect itself and other nots such as its implementation.
This pack contains:
4 New missile sounds
2 New explosion sounds Associated code for said sounds
5 Resized missile models, including Torpedo
A new dummy model for use as a gun, munition, or debris
17 Missile and torpedo effects Each missile has its explosion slightly tweaked
Torpedo explosions completely redone (See Weapon Descriptions.txt for more info)
15 New explosions of various size and color
Includes ambient explosions and battledust Documentation for how to implement the more exotic effects, such as the ambient explosions used in Itano Circus and the battledust used in 88 Flak.
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You guys are funny, so clearly you went through all the proper channels and got authorization before you used other peoples music, other peoples ideas like Star Wars, Babylon 5, X3 etc etc, right? If not you’re kinda being hypocritical here my friends.
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These mods did not use content directly; only creative ideas (such as the Babylon 5 universe etc.). While that is admittedly a bit of a grey area on its own, it is an entirely different story than stealing physical media like models, textures, etc. Plus, these mods at least credit their sources of inspiration.
Edit: Apparently, credit is supposedly given (except for Crossfire - you guys should credit that, regardless of rather you like it or not - you clearly liked it enough to use stuff from it). Still, you should ask before you use things.
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Sure is good reading comprehension in here.
As I’ve said, I do give credit to the modders, I do however, ask permission. -
Also Why485
The source of the music was
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Also foxunit, your logic is deeply flawed. Pasta doing this does not hurt the creators in anyway, hell he could have simply not told anyone outside of /v/ and they would never even knew it happened.As I said, it can be very irritating. That said, you have a point; since nobody cares about 4Chan, it probably would not have mattered.
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YKM wrote:
Also Why485
The source of the music was
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYQnLnJGj-U/v/ delivers
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As I said, it can be very irritating. That said, you have a point; since nobody cares about 4Chan, it probably would not have mattered.
Oh please, don’t get into an insulting 4chan contest.
Because 4chan always wins, nobody hates us more than us. -
Pastaspace wrote:
As I said, it can be very irritating. That said, you have a point; since nobody cares about 4Chan, it probably would not have mattered.
Oh please, don’t get into an insulting 4chan contest.
Because 4chan always wins, nobody hates us more than us.Ahaha, people are always saying “why the #$%% do I keep coming to this site?”.
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Also, bit of a low blow going around 1-starring the /v/lancer videos, I don’t get the bros to go around denouncing your videos.
And let me tell you, besides the 88Flak and Itano Circus videos…
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Garbage?
Bro, 4chan is such garbage that it’s been decomposed, recycled, and thrown away so many times it is now solely responsible for the entire ecosystem. -
Once you upload a file on the internet it is bound for someone to download your file and use it as he likes, credits or no credits. It’s not like in real life where you can beat the crap out of the guy who stole your car, here’s virtual reality, you can’t beat the guy/kid who stole your spaceship and there isn’t much you can do about it …… unless you’re Microsoft, which changes things, but you’re not. My point is, once you release a mod, consider it’s code public, gone, sayonara. That’s why everytime I upload one of my models I expect to see an “original” ship made by someone else, that looks exactly like my ship, on the internet in a couple of days if not less. Not saying it’s right to “steal” but once it’s been done, it’s done, nothing’s gonna change, no matter how many pages this topic has. In the end, if you know that certain piece of art is yours, and the ppl who matter know also … that’s all you need.
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Why are we actually still discussing about it?
Throw these thiefs outta here. Every other FL site and modding community will do the same. Their steam channel can also get closed if neccessary as valve has pretty clear rules regarding copyrights. Then these jerks can sit on their empty server and stare at their stolen “work”.There is not a single FL site that condones theft. And obviously these ppl have not come here to contribute anything.
@solcommand - i-net might be open but it also has to follow laws. The last two which decided to steal from my mod had to close their server. -
Well, they havent released anything yet. They now know how we think about it, and thats about it. If their mod with stolen work stays in a closed group, there is nothing to be done anyway.
On another note, SolCommand has a point. Its naive to think that you can prevent people from ripping your mod apart and repackaging it. If its made public, then you can go after them, but in a lot of cases, these hacked-together mods are often made for small groups of players who want to have fun. This is appareantly such a case, and it doesnt help to get worked up about it so much as in to “call the police”.
