3MAJ-VHF

cvekiboy

Again, MUCHOS GRATZIES M1C !
This looks awesome now.

STAGE 2
Following the cata123 way I did next:

1. Adjusted model in blender (2.60)

model has 100+K vertices/faces and 200+K triangles
textures r still square .jpg
still some parts dont have texture assigned
parts separated in groups that use same material
exported to .obj file for next step

2. Loading the .obj in Khed (1.1.3)

the groups have dif. name (the texture name or smth is in them)
texture gives suggestions for 256x256 images and reassigning fails
exporting the un-textured model to .ms3d file

3. Opening the .ms3d file in MilkShape (1.8.0)

FAILS (crash)

What Im doing wrong? :-?

Here r latest project files:

.7z or .rar

P.S. What is max suggested number of vertices or triangles for fighter based ship?

LancerSolurus

MS3D has a limit of 65k verts and 65k tris, your overloading it.

cvekiboy

Thanks on info!

Back to drawing board

LancerSolurus

I don’t know if GMax will support it but there is a max 2 ms3d plugin that may help…

Ezekiel

Good Work
You can try to use poly reduction from blender, but it may corrupt you model making Holes inside :/, you can even use PolyTrans, to “process n clean” models and then 3dsmax has a “fill holes” script.

Send me your model, i can see if i can perform poly reduction without losing too much quality.
(i have polytrans, and daz 3d, but i don’t have bought the steam dragon model, so i can’t export it)

EDIT :
so, i have now the model for Daz,
i have exported it to OBJ file (10 Mo)
i have process poly reduction and the .3ds model statistic are :
25170 vertices
20046 Triangles
105 Groups
14 Material (UV Only)

Object still Smooth, no visible qualty lose.
Model opens with no error in MS3D.
If you are interesting, just send me your model (your steam dragon Posed, from daz in Obj format) i will apply the poly reduction and send it back to you

Edit, i havn’t seen previous post with attached files, downloading and making some poly reduction tests to fit the best quality

cvekiboy

@ Ezekiel - wait, wait lol I cant follow ur speed.
Im rly glad u interested touching this project and helping to make it alive.

Without knowing the limits of MS I also put things on that object that needs total removing. Than poly reducing to limits and rest what need to come.

If u r able to accomplish good way and is better than my any possible try, I send u a final files to finish them.

Thanks buddy for interests.

Ezekiel

Ok, i’m actually making some tries with polytrans (okino)

cvekiboy

Here is the latest files (.blend and .obj) of 2 versions.

3MAJ-STRIPPED - Here r all parts and details removed from model to lower the poly counts. With that it has 90K vertices and 175K triangles. This model I would like to convert below the limit without much lose of the basic shape. As I see the starting model u reduced to 25/20 K . Wanna experiment and try to do the same with this?

3MAJ-STRIPPED_REDUCED - Here I also removed more parts and applied blenders decimator modifier on every mash groups to max reduction without drastic loss of basic shape.
With that, final object has 57K vertices and 112K triangles.
My Blender version has no polygon reduction tool so Im looking for rest possibles. With verts Im satisfied, just that tris to erase somehow.

P.S. Hours and hours stearing in blender, and now using right click to scroll in windows and browser

Ezekiel

See attachement, i have lose the UV Map, but i think you an easily remade it with your source files.

Model with 1 group, with maya you can break into multiple part and remake your UV map

Tell me if its good (or not), file opens corectly in MS3D (verify if al the components are OK)

cvekiboy

PERFECT !
That looks so sick
I engrave ur name inside

Ezekiel

hope you can put it ingame quickly to have a video of your model in action

cvekiboy

Finally its alive!
This is the first version where the performance is measured with 1024 square textures and as one part ship.

Future plans

Make it multipart
Baydoor animation on his legs (they will stretch)

With this mod u can make quick test flying it as an Eagle.

Here is a quick video from test!

As always, any suggestions to improve it more if needed are welcome.

Ezekiel

Awesome

Upload files, so that we can see to make it multipart (and what the name of the ship?)

cvekiboy

MS soruce
Name:3MAJ

cvekiboy

Exporting the ship cmp with this settings fails to load in HardCMP correctly (all I see is 1st group).
Loading in UTF editor with show model screen is in full.
Latest 3MAJ-MULTIPART ship!

Am I on the right course?

… and one noob question plus!
Does the docking action activates baydoor animation on player ship like it does for docking lights and is it same for jettison cargo?

Ezekiel

good

for the question : don’t know, but i think animation can be triggered by flhok (see some things on a post in the tuts section, about animated wings on ship)

cvekiboy

ANIMATIONS!
Still in progress! Few more tweaks left to make.

Loot Out

Docking Pose

Huor

that looks sweet ;D

cata123

animation made in 3ds max ?

cvekiboy

Nope!
UTF Editor 3.0 and adoxa’s Freelancer XML project with w0dk4’s tutorial !
However, last thing I need to make (wireframe) will need 3ds max for hitbox model.

P.S. tnx Huor, this was round 200 logins/outs.