3D Model Showroom
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This does not really pertain to anything in particular. I just finished watching Macross Frontier, and inspired by the awesome fleet scenes they do I decided to do something similar with Freelancer ships. I ran into a problem though. I had no awesome central ship to base the fleet around. So four furious hours of modeling later, this came out. Completely made up on the spot, I’m proud of how well it turned out considering the lack of planning.
Yes, that little thing on the bottom of the image is a Liberty Dreadnought.
Finished the video I was working on. Quick 25 seconds. Once again I curse this forums auto-embed of YouTube videos.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NoOOFxm72g&fmt=18
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TWO word: Impressive and Awesome!!!
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Can’t do anything but watch that movie over and over again. Plain magnificent, like a part of an intro to an FL mod. What did you render it all with? Magnificent.
Blends in so well with the FL environment, this ship is like if it was always a part of the FL universe. Genius.
Any longer version? This is like a movie ;D
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OMG, how did you made this
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Can’t do anything but watch that movie over and over again. Plain magnificent, like a part of an intro to an FL mod. What did you render it all with? Magnificent.
Blends in so well with the FL environment, this ship is like if it was always a part of the FL universe. Genius.
Any longer version? This is like a movie ;D
Everytime the video ends I keep waiting for a Freelancer TV series to start.
This was done in Lightwave 3D. Some time ago I exported roughly half of the ship models in Freelancer and have been using them for miscellaneous projects since then. You can see the rest of the renders I have done both here and here
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Hey Why, I noticed in one of those threads that you were having probs with importing guns. Try the newer CMP Importer v2.7 here in the downloads section, by P!p3r. Just checked with the liberty cruiser gun (in the ship’s dir) and it imports flawlessly. As do the Dyson and Nomad turrets which show up as triangle soup in HardCMP.
Good fleet shot there, nice mod of the lrg base too, looks natural. Only thing - perhaps a window / barrier of some sort at the end of the “dome” area to seal out space. The HQ vid looks great, quite comparable to the Macross fleet shots, or BSG even
I don’t think the contrails are missed, I mean they’re more an atmospheric thing, in space they just don’t make sense anyhoo.I dug the new series, but some of their mixing 2d with 3d looked a bit off. Particularly the transformation and fight scenes. Those were some of my fav parts in the first robotech or macross series; very fast flight & transforms, and missile volley / evasions.
Ya know, that damn Frontier theme song was often stuck in my head too -as were most of the others.PS: Lightwave’s OBJ format for MS import works better than 3DS imho; no leftover DOS 8.3 naming restrictions. The only thing you have to change to get them in as intended is by planning ahead and separating sections like how Milkshape works with Groups (1 texture mapped on each mesh). Unfortunately, that can lead to over 18 groups on large, complex models
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Hey Why, I noticed in one of those threads that you were having probs with importing guns. Try the newer CMP Importer v2.7 here in the downloads section, by P!p3r. Just checked with the liberty cruiser gun (in the ship’s dir) and it imports flawlessly. As do the Dyson and Nomad turrets which show up as triangle soup in HardCMP.
PS: Lightwave’s OBJ format for MS import works better than 3DS imho; no leftover DOS 8.3 naming restrictions. The only thing you have to change to get them in as intended is by planning ahead and separating sections like how Milkshape works with Groups (1 texture mapped on each mesh). Unfortunately, that can lead to over 18 groups on large, complex models
I’m not too fond of the whole Milkshape conversion mess. And putting models into Freelancer has never been a top priority for me, but this is duly noted.
Good fleet shot there, nice mod of the lrg base too, looks natural. Only thing - perhaps a window / barrier of some sort at the end of the “dome” area to seal out space. The HQ vid looks great, quite comparable to the Macross fleet shots, or BSG even
I don’t think the contrails are missed, I mean they’re more an atmospheric thing, in space they just don’t make sense anyhoo.I really wanted to make sure that the model looked like it belonged in the Freelancer universe. So what better way to ensure that then to “kitbash” Freelancer models together. The ships geometry comes from Newark Station and Juneu Shipyard. The bottom half of the central section is the only original geometry. Also the dome area is completely sealed off. It’s just that unless it gets hit by the light just the right way it is tough to see, particularly in video. Contrails I didn’t do because I honestly cannot think of an effective way to do it ;D
I dug the new series, but some of their mixing 2d with 3d looked a bit off. Particularly the transformation and fight scenes. Those were some of my fav parts in the first robotech or macross series; very fast flight & transforms, and missile volley / evasions.
Ya know, that damn Frontier theme song was often stuck in my head too -as were most of the others.I loved Frontier. After the second episode I was completely hooked. I had heard good things about it, and when I finally got around to watching it, (Coincidentally only about 3 weeks after the show finished airing.) I was completely blown away by the quality of the show. It is definitely a show for Macross fans. I thought the animation was terrific. Off the top of my head, I had no issues with the 2D/3D mix at all. The only time I thought it looked a little off sometimes was in Macross Zero, but they have improved greatly since then. At the moment, Frontier is definitely my favorite “serious” anime series.
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Sorry to get away from your discussion, but I wanted to show off Redwolf’s (part of WCDI team) latest ship for our current project (not Griff’s CEP). We still need a texturer badly though. And for future questions, those pilots are the default pilots from FL; same sized.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk27/alfaastrix/Hadron Universe/Show Off/FullEx.jpg?t=1226904195 -
Nice ship there, im slightly worried about the polygon count tho lol
can see a number of places where it could be optimized alot 
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Where is says Ed: 0 - # is how many pollies it is (for those not familure with Blender). This ship as of right now is at 18656, so it shouldn’t be too much of a problem. If it does, we can render it down.
Otherwise, what ideas do you have in mind for “optimizing”?
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Give me a minute ill highlight some areas
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1. These areas can be greatly cut down, just the ends (the cylinder shape with the extrusion on it) you could cut the poly count in these areas by half what they are - easily)
2. The “fans” could be cut in half easily too.
3. Unless the side of this panel has some surface structure as to what i cant see, taking out every other line (edge) could make it smaller all the way round.
4. The inside area wont be seen from the outside, why not make it so its almost a flat panel? - if its seen thru, then it shouldnt make a blind bit of difference i would have thought lol.
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18k not a problem!?! Is this ship supposed to only be used by like one person in the whole mod or what?
18k is usually like a HUGE station. 10k or less is for caps, 2k or less for fighters (and those are not conservative numbers at all). Trust me, anything more than 2 or 3 will get you a LOT of complains from people who get lag.
Plus, I don’t believe the 18k is worth it. You can always do a normal ship in less than 2k. The other 16k are added fluff for the most part, a large portion of which can be done with textures.
Of course, everyone’s entitled to their opinion.
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Yeah, just look for areas that are FLAT. There are a few more areas I see which could be reduced to 1 polygon / 2 faces. Pretty much all the … um gun-like structures. Unless they have curves along them. Look along the sides of the body as well, many of those could be reduced, length-wise, merging polygons. Take into account also that curves in-game in FL’s engine won’t show up as well as in the much better lighting of a 3D program’s rendering. FL’s lighting just is not anywhere as precise as a modeling program, so some curvature can be less complex (engine intakes, radars, etc).
Great looking ship / design either way
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Ok…so from what I’m getting is that the ships need to be dubbed down because otherwise lo-end computers will have problems? Or is it that any computer would have problems?
Also, from what I believe, and I may be wrong, but when the texturing is being done, could we not make the cockpit area transparent so you can see it inside when you do a turret view? I mean that’s why it was done like that, otherwise the cockpit would have been left out dropping about 2K to 3K pollies.
And on a final note, I thought Freelancer could render up to 65355 pollies per object, so why would 18K be a huge problem besides what I already mentioned?
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The minute you get three of them on screen its gunna be POW bye to FL and hello CTD
