FLHook Python Event API

FriendlyFire

tai, I’d suggest you consider that decision again once you’ve calmed down a bit. I do hope Str only wanted to help, despite showing incredible arrogance in his reply. Remember that you’re contributing a lot to the effort that keeps this game alive!

Worfeh

Strange i didn’t stumble on this post before.

@STR,

Remember this is something created in Tai’s own free time. He atleast has the guts to make it opensource and gives others a peek in his code.
We applaud to everyone creating tools/mods/utilities for Freelancer no matter how the code looks like, thats why we have a community.
This community is known that people will help each other, just look at the FLhook sections, you see a lot of patches help codes etc etc.

Tai did a great job, and will do an even better job when he will improve his code with the help from others or just by figuring that out by him self.

No need to slack him down.

@Tai,

Please continue the community bennefits from people like you.

Sushi

FriendlyFire wrote:
tai, I’d suggest you consider that decision again once you’ve calmed down a bit. I do hope Str only wanted to help, despite showing incredible arrogance in his reply. Remember that you’re contributing a lot to the effort that keeps this game alive!

I couldn’t agree more with this, Tai. Thank you for showing the FL community what you’ve done for your server. While it may have not been perfect, at least you’ve donated something to the community.

As for Str, the arrogance and complete lack of regard for someone’s feelings seems to run rampant throughout your post, however, I do hope the post was to highlight areas of improvement rather than put down Tai.

tai

Thanks Guys for the backup.

I’m thinking about releasing the Version I have in development now, but I don’t know if I’ll do.
It has some changes, some of the things mentioned above. But most of these things were changed before the posting of Str.

I also just created handling for commands like /command

If there is someone interested, contact me!

Str

but I really had to know someone will somplain about my bad python coding style

I did not complain. I’m not even someone who has actually an use for the script. Although my primarely intention was to highlight improvements of the code, I have to admit that my answer was harsh, but not because I wanted to put you down or hurt you but because of… say, the way I got here. I know someone from this community since years very well and he showed me your post. I will not talk about why, but I am both worried about him as well as angry on him because of some things which got invoked by your post but are a issue for a while now. I want to apologize if I hurted you, but be assured it had nothing to do with “OH I CAN POWN SOME STRANGER ON THE INTERNETZ!1”-like behavior and I do not have anything against you personally. To clear this a bit up for you and in case you haven’t noticed already: I’m a longtime member of ]Imperium[.

So thanks to Str I won’t release anything else here, thank him if you think this is bad

Please reconsider your decision. Maybe someone will think of me again as arrogant, but this is a childish thing to do because of a post from which you do not know why it sounded the way it does, whilst, in the end, it is giving improvement suggestions.

Edit³: I have two sockets open for one reason: I don’t want to get my eventmode socket messed up by command output! And so everyone can do everything he likes with the other socket without affecting my event script, you understand? This is not intended for use of Players, it’s for Server Admins, which should know what they’ll do!

The code in question does not state anything of that. Also, just because you think someone experienced will use it does not free you from making it safe, maintainable and understandable, let alone making it free of trivial errors, like uninitialized variables. Especially copied code’s maintainability and understandability is the worst and makes grasping the main concepts harder.

Edit: Most mistakes come from my lack of time, so feel free to clean up my “crappy” code!

Well, the code does show deeper misunderstandings of python and/or programming in general, like using class variables and setHandler(), without clearing in any way whether it should be instance wide or class wide available. Please consider using the two links I gave you, since they will only clear things up.

Remember this is something created in Tai’s own free time. He atleast has the guts to make it opensource and gives others a peek in his code.

I do appreciate that. As I said, I got angry not because of tai. The code has had some influence, but the primarily reason is stated above.

Cannon

@Tai: Kudos to you for making your software available for everyone. It gives all of us an opportunity to help improve it. Good on you.

Worfeh

@STR,

Its not hard to slackdown someone.
Admiting you made a mistake is.

So thanks for your rectification.

Can we continue now to get this tool up and running?

Azureus

Just to interject, I find it awesome that you people can resolve differences and like men apologise and move forward, unlike a lot of communities I have been a part of over the years I have been on the internet.

Well done

tai

well I’ll accept your apology Str, but you’ll need to do something small:
Explain me what the Hell are Instance and Class variables!

Str

OK, but first you need to know some things about the python object system:

Classes are themselves objects, unlike in other languages (like Java, where they are just magical things brought to you by the JVM which don’t fit in Java in any other way). In fact, when you create a new object from a class, you are just calling it, like a function. You can create yourself objects that are callable, like in C++ with “operator ()”, and create in that way “Functor” objects (C++ programmers should have heard this, they are just that: Objects which are acting like a function, eg. you can call them). Functions are instances of the “Function” class (You can import it: “from types import FunctionsType” ).

>>> class A(object):
        def __call__(self, a, b):
            return a + b + 42

>>> a = A()
>>> a(3, 3)
48

Classes have so-called metaclasses, which are the classes of themselves. Since a class is somewhat of a “building plan” for a specific object, a metaclass is a building plan for the building plan. The standard metaclass every class is using is “type”. You can even create new metaclasses, either completly or you simply inherit from “type” and extend in the ways you need.

So, after that: A class variable of a class named “A” is a instance variable of the metaclass and has the specific property that it’s reachable from instances of the class “A”.

>>> class M(type):
        def __init__(self, my_variable, *args, **kwargs):
            self.my_variable = my_variable
            type.__init__(self, *args, **kwargs)

>>> class A(object):
        __metaclass__ = M

>>> A.my_variable
'A'
>>> A().my_variable
'A'

Don’t let this confuse you, it works just like other classes, with the exception that on creation of the class the class M is used to instantiate it - The class you have in the end is an instance of M. You can create standard classes even with type (or other metaclasses) yourself, by just instantiating it:

>>> def __init__(that_other_self, x):
        that_other_self.x = x

>>> MyNewClass = type("Name", (object,), {"an_method": lambda self: self.x + 42, "__init__": __init__})
>>> my_new_class = MyNewClass(8)
>>> my_new_class
<__main__.Name object at 0xb7ea6f0c>
>>> my_new_class_instance = MyNewClass(8)
>>> my_new_class_instance
<__main__.Name object at 0xb7ea930c>
>>> my_new_class_instance.an_method()
50

The first parameter of a metaclass (constructor) is the name, the second the classes it should inherit from and the third a dictionary with all attributes (functions and variables) which an object of the class should own.

Since writing metaclasses everytime you need a class variable would be tiresome, python uses the class body for that:

>>> class A(object):
        my_class_variable = 5

>>> A.my_class_variable
5
>>> A().my_class_variable
5

Note that therefore, every method you write is also a class variable - it is just reachable by the objects. When you change a class variable on the class, all objects notice:

>>> print a.my_class_variable, another_a.my_class_variable
5 5
>>> A.my_class_variable = 20
>>> print a.my_class_variable, another_a.my_class_variable
20 20

Now comes something very important: When you set a name in python on something, the most local namespace available is used. So when you change the variable on an instances, the instance namespace is used and you create a new instance variable, which shadows the old class variable:

>>> another_a.my_class_variable = 10
>>> print a.my_class_variable, another_a.my_class_variable
20 10
>>> print A.my_class_variable
20

So you create real instance variable in init, the constructor of the object:

>>> class A(object):
        def __init__(self, some_name):
            self.some_name = some_name
            self.xyz = 42

>>> a = A(4)
>>> print a.some_name
4
>>> print a.xyz
42
>>> print A.some_name
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
AttributeError: type object 'A' has no attribute 'some_name'</module></stdin>

So, in short a class variable is something the class manages as opposed to something the object manages. When you change it on the class, all objects notice immediatly.

So when I construct something like you did in your code, this happens:

>>> class A(object):
        handlers = []
        def set_handler(self, handler):
            self.handlers.append(handler)

>>> a, another_a = A(), A()
>>> a.set_handler("my_first_pseudo_handler")
>>> another_a.set_handler("another handler")
>>> print a.handlers
['my_first_pseudo_handler', 'another handler']
>>>

You see that in fact you have changed all handlers for all objects which exist. When you want handlers for every object, you have to create instance variables in init:

>>> class A(object):
...     def __init__(self):
...         self.handlers = []
...     def set_handler(self, handler):
...         self.handlers.append(handler)
... 
>>> a, another_a = A(), A()
>>> a.set_handler("my_first_pseudo_handler")
>>> another_a.set_handler("another handler")
>>> print a.handlers
['my_first_pseudo_handler']
>>> print another_a.handlers
['another handler']

So it’s not right to use the class body for variables which you don’t need to be given in init.

One last important thing to notice is that this concept does not include methods of the metaclass, since functions you write in the class body are considered a variable and are just distributed to the instances of that class. To include this concept, python uses the class “classmethod”:

>>> class A(object):
        def my_class_method(cls, bla):
            print bla
            print cls
        my_class_method = classmethod(my_class_method)

>>> A.my_class_method(42)
42
<class '__main__.a'=""></class>

Note that you can also use classmethod as a decorator:

>>> class A(object):
       @classmethod
       def blub(cls):
           pass

>>> A.blub
<bound method="" type.blub="" of="" <class="" '__main__.a'="">></bound>

(That is, by the way, really all decorators do - they expect to find an unary callable object and use it on the function (or class, in python greater than 2.6) you define next, rebinding the name. This was introduced since the concept is mighty (Functions as first order objects or you could also say the concept of “Higher order functions” ) and perfectly doable in python without decorators, but does hide the sense of the code when you don’t look closely what is written directly after the definition.)

For what do you need classmethods? There are many things you rather want the class to do than the object it creates (and it is really a great concept to work with), but the standard example are “alternate constructors”:

>>> class A(object):
       def __init__(self, standard_format):
             self.thing_in_standard_format = standard_format
       @classmethod
       def from_string(cls, another_format):
           # So say we need in the normal constructor a number:
           return cls(int(another_format))

>>> a = A.from_string("42")
>>> print a.thing_in_standard_format
42
>>> print type(a.thing_in_standard_format)

You could also write a classmethod named “from_file_object” which does just that. In other languages you would be forced to use normal functions which you group to the class, but that is really something the class should encapsulate, not it’s instances. Also note that this way you can inherit a class from another which uses classmethods and overwrite them: Any function which relies on the classmethod will not notice whether you gave it your subclass or the class from which you subclass inherited (this is called “polymorphism” ). Alone for this advantage it’s all worth it.

These concepts make python a really great language to work in. Many things in python are build upon a few basic concepts, and this hole class thing I just explained is one of them. All you have in python are objects from some classes, this is true everywhere, for every thing you can reach - things like “def some_function” are also just convenient abbreviations for the real thing, as I just showed with metaclasses. Python does much to hold up it’s minimalism, for example is type and instance of itself. This is done in C code and just works because of that.

Also, note that I inherited from “object” everywhere. The class system as I explained it was rewritten in python 2.1 and we have up to python 2.6 two sort of classes: The “Oldstyle” classes (which are the ones before 2.1) and the NewStyle Ones (which are those which inherit from object). In python 2.6 and greater you don’t need to inherit from object anymore and get NewStyle classes automatically. But before that, you should inherit from object. The OldStyle classes are deprecated and no longer supported (and are in many ways weaker than the NewStyle ones).

With these concepts in mind, you can do great things in python. The problem is that many tutorials don’t mention them. The official one I linked to does. Hope this helps you.

tai

Ok, so if I got you right, I should declare my instance variables only in the init function, right?
And class variables, specified in the body are available for all instances, even when changed.

Well I’ll try to realize that now. For the thing with connection loss/Server crash, I already solved it, but it might doesn’t look good, or is crappy for your eyes, but for me it works

Str

Ok, so if I got you right, I should declare my instance variables only in the init function, right?
And class variables, specified in the body are available for all instances, even when changed.

Correct, that’s the essence. Anyhow, the other parts are important to work with them (and classes in general).

tai

Yes I read all of that, most of it were things I knew, but the thing with classes and class variables and instance variables was new to me
Thanks Str

FriendlyFire

Just wanted to chime in and say like the others that I’m happy to see that you guys are collaborating together to make that thing ever better

Sounds like you might be onto something; good news are good to hear for once!

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