Making Surs for 3dbs

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@ Sushi: I tested it with the same results as before, detects hits from time to time but very unreliable. What were your settings?

@Star Trader: Tis basically a very good idea, the only problem however is that you cannot create any new and extraordinary shapes this way.

@cata123: Thanks for the hint, I’ll try it out.

Edit: Works indeed, thanks again!

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Hmm, after extensive tests I have found the scheme to be reliable but not 100% reliable. Using only one asteroid model with one single part sur, there are still some asteroids that don’t detect hits, although other asteroids that use the same model and sur and are only 50 metres from the described ones are working properly.

cata123

Increase the collision detection check -```
common.dll 0EDB44 0.01f = collision detection min check distance (increasing this will fix issues with the sur collisions on objects > 130k from center of system) ~w0dk4

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I tried to implement that hack with 0.05f, 0.5f and 5.0f, neither one helped. Error logs aren’t much help either.

cata123

One curiosity : you can test the model changing the type of sur .
Types of sur are :

02 - scenery
03 - weapon/ammo/damage object
04 - ship /station
This is how it’s named in FLModelTool .
I wonder if you try with another type of sur , what is the result.
The type is at 6C offset in each single mesh sur ; you can change also with hex editor.

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Had a look at it, seems that stock FL asteroid surs use 02, whereas LS’s sur builder gives you 00. Now testing.

Edit: the offset appears to be C rather than C6, at least that’s what I have to change if I want Flmodeltool to recognise it.

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Alright, tested it and still no luck. I’ll try it again tomorrow, maybe I am more lucky then.

adoxa

cata123 wrote:
One curiosity : you can test the model changing the type of sur .

That is misinformation - it is not type but the count of tags within the first sur part. I think this was discussed in one of the sur generator threads. Use SurDump to view the structure of a sur (or turn on logging in the MilkShape importer).

cata123

I see .

This is from lancer solurus`s sur format explanation from digital brilliance.
So what is with this sur tag about .

adoxa

The tag is one of !fxd, exts, surf, hpid; the count (what FLMT erroneously called type) is how many of those occur. Why don’t you download my SurDump and have a look at its source?