Freelancer | LEGACY - project canceled
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Nice stuff, lookin’ good!
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You should change the dust type in the asteroid intro screen, it doesn’t look very well in blue. Dark grey should look better.
The planet in the splash screen seems to be a bit stretched.
What do you mean with new HUD icons? Do you want to replace all these buttons for docking, scanning cargo and so on? I would not do this because it’s something the user is used to.
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Quarks wrote:
You should change the dust type in the asteroid intro screen, it doesn’t look very well in blue. Dark grey should look better.The planet in the splash screen seems to be a bit stretched.
What do you mean with new HUD icons? Do you want to replace all these buttons for docking, scanning cargo and so on? I would not do this because it’s something the user is used to.
The intro screens originate from the Frontier Space mod, off which we are working.
The splash screen is a quick 2 minute draft and is used for us to discuss in what direction we want to go with it. In no way is this the definitive version. I wanted to display it though, to give everyone a view of what direction we’re going.
Yes, those are the icons I am referring to. I have to disagree with you on this; if you do it right, it might even be appealing to new players. The new icons are not going to be something totally different, but rather better looking versions of the existing ones.Thanks for your feedback!
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I’d suggest if you’re going to take that route with the icons, do as FWTOW has done.
That is, the static icons are different (In this case I think they’re letter of the Galactic Basic alphabet) but the ‘hover’ icons remain the same.
That way old users won’t be so disorientated, even when their feel fails them it just takes a quick scroll over the icons to find the correct one.
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Note:
We have decided to ditch the Frontier Space mod, and start with a clean vanilla install as a basis for Legacy.
The main reasons are:
- We don’t want to lose time anymore trying to figure out how some of the files have been put together by the original mod author. Weird errors can appear when adding stuff to an already modded game version, and if you don’t exactly know what is modded and how it is done, the amount of time involved in analyzing can be immense and is, in fact, lost time.
- There are obscurities regarding the ‘freeware’ nature (as it is described in the readme of Frontier Space) of the mod. We do not want for these obscurities to influence the way players and the community at large will look at Legacy.
Initially, it will cost more time to add content which Frontier Space already had. But the benefits of this outweigh the disadvantages. We believe that in the end, it will pay off for both us and our players.
Regards,
Maverick & Akira,
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I agreed with Maverick on this subject. I by in no means want to infringe on someone elses work and its true that it has taken me and maverick a good week just to decifer some of the mistakes frontiers had. Going with the vanilla foundation is the onlyway we can truely be glitch free in the end. We made the decision to start at ground zero on this now , and happily i can say it wont put us back too far in our release date.
I also want to thank the community for being so helpful …
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Sounds like the sensible thing to do guys. I have a feeling all those headaches would have demoralised you pretty quickly.
Also, it would have been a huge kick in the nuts if you’d done a load of work, released a mod, then run into trouble with the original author or anyone who gave him permission to use material in the mod.
Perhaps the biggest thing though, you might have called it Legacy, but some would have undoubtedly said that it was really Frontier Space and possibly criticised you for changing certain things.
My own personal mod is based massively on Itano Circus by WHY485, because I absolutely love it and he’s cool about sharing stuff. A lot of my content, although heavily modified by me comes from the old Asylum51 mod which I used to be a part of. So I call the mod Asylum51 Circus. Even though it’s for personal use I still like to stay true to where it comes from.
What I’m saying I guess, is Frontier Space Legacy would possibly have made more sense. Clear then what it was, and Legacy would be true.
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Sounds good Maverick / Akira.
Can’t wait to start seeing more progress
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Thanks Roo , i’ll be sure to keep your yaht in its ritefull place
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I am angry and disappointed to announce that all work on the Legacy mod has sadly been suspended until further notice.
The reasons are as follows.It has been well over a week since I heard from my partner Akira. The server has been offline since, and I was unable to connect remotely during that time. It was only just now that Akira was able to let me know why.
It seems that certain people have made his IP address a target for a flood of attacks. This has affected the server box and Akira his other personal hardware to a level where serious security risks outweigh the fun we had in doing the project. It also made working on it near impossible.Akira also depends on his hardware for work he does for (paying) clients, and it is not worth risking losing all this over a game.
I fully back his view in this, and share his opinion that it’s not worth to risk damaging our hardware over a modification of a game which we do for fun, for free and in our spare time.So until further notice, we see no other option than to suspend the project.
It is worth mentioning that ever since we started the project, I have had the impression that certain people did not want our project to succeed. I have no proof what so ever whether these same people are responsible for the attacks, nor do I have the technological means or knowledge to find out either way, but it is all a little bit too coincidental for my taste.
Either way, I find it deeply sad that some people lower themselves to low level practices like this, and try to sabotage a project that is done by two people in their free time, for the love of a game and to nobody’s expense.
If the situation does not change, this decision might become final. If it does, I will offer the Legacy forum board and any mod content we had prepared to anyone who sees a good purpose for it.
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This is horrible to hear, I can only imagine how disheartening such a thing would be.
However, is having the server running ultimately important in creating the mod? If you’re creating content based on players on the server, then I certainly understand how devastating it would, but otherwise mod work can quite easily be done in an ‘off-line’ state, using a local server.
Or perhaps you could set a Hamachi network or something? I don’t really know how much of a defence that would be, honestly, networking isn’t my strong suit.
Regardless, I definitely don’t want to see Legacy go under the water, and more minds on a problem is never bad.
I hope you’re able to resolve these issues, however it may become possible. If you need a hand for anything to help you achieve that, give me a shout, I can do monkey work for you if it means keeping you afloat!
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Thank you for the kind words, Bob. But after a long hard think I have decided to pull back from the project. I still haven’t heard from Akira (although he will probably have his reasons), and to be frank there is not much point in continuing to work on a project which is constantly targeted by people who want to see it fail.
Like you said, it is quite disheartening. And frankly, I have better things to do with my limited time. It’s sad but it’s the way it is.
I have had more negative experiences in the Freelancer world and although I am not going to address them here, I have made a decision to draw the line here and move on to other things.I have made a post in which I offer a couple of things of which I hope may be of help to others though. You can read it here. If you are interested in some of it, leave a reply there and I’ll get back to you.
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Sorry that things turned this way.
Also, very generous offer to share the things u did so far.
Maybe someone will appreciate your wish to continue the work and call/offer the place in molding a rest things as a new team.Anyway, however it turns out - wish u good luck in future and dont turn back to this community. The place is full of interesting news from time to time.
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You know what, you’re dead right, there’s a lot of negativity in the freelancer community, always has been, but honestly, every game I’ve ever played has the same issue. That’s people for you! You either let it get to you, or you laugh it off.
It’s why I take the piss most of the time. People don’t pay much attention to me as a result, (quote sizer “nobody listens to Timmy”
) but that doesn’t matter because the truth is I’ve not got anything much to offer in terms of modding. What I know, I know because someone here or Glock36 told me how to do it.The reality of freelancer these days is one where a handful of mods and projects are relevant to the community, everything else is just background noise. Whatever you had in mind for your mod, there was a damn good chance it was only ever going to be a part of the background noise anyway, so look at this as a chance to break free of all the pressure you put yourself under by announcing you were going to be making a mod in the first place. Lots of the modders are borderline nuts, you’ve had a taste of why!
The real question you have to ask yourself, is do you like modding freelancer? I love it, but the reason I do is that it’s just for my own pleasure. No pressure, no deadlines, no worrying about what anyone else thinks about it, nobody to please but myself. If you like modding just do it anyway, either for yourself or as part of someone elses team, don’t let whatever the hell it is that’s happened stop you doing something you enjoy.
