Problems after make infocard

Three Quick Questions.

Do you see “IDS?” in place of the name or description?
What version of Windows Are you using?
Do you have all the .Net and other drivers and patches installed?

Hmm… looks like you have a major prob there…

If nothing is showing in space… then there’s a corrupt reference (or many) or your .dll’s are empty/not synced to
the nickname = param… or just maybee… (and even ive done this b4) you moved the wrong dl’'s after coding?..

I moved from the FL-Id to F.F.'s FL-Dev program a while back … due to my PC not liking it anymore…
I would suggest… and i know this is a harsh suggestion… to redo it all in Fl-Dev… set it to a
“seperate” output folder as to not get confused (easy when dealing with multiple .dll’s) and your altered .dll’s
will be safley in that folder to move into your mod…

NEVER trust FLE m8… possibly the greatest golden rule of FL modding ;D
It gets IDS wrong with custom .dll’s … alot… best way it to “construct” in FLE… then code your .dll’s
after with FL-Dev… well at least that way has saved me a ton of sanity…

& never enter a name in FLE and expect it to show in space… lolz… that would just be tooooo easy

Best of luck

Hi guys.

Be aware that dlls can contain multiple languages for each resource. You will only see this by using ResHacker or a professional resource editor.

The problem shows in the game because if more than one language entry exists for a resource, FL will read the first, usually Language 0 (Language-Neutral) and will ignore any changes you made because the editors we have, including FL-Developer, save the changes as Language 1033 (US English). These editors are not aware of the existence of Language 0 tables, so they do not delete them in the same resource.

If you learn how to use ResHacker you can manually check for double Language entries by opening all the resource nodes, and carefully deleting the Language 0 entries in only those resources that have both a Language 0 entry and a Language 1033 entry.

Be sure to make a backup before doing this because ResHacker does not always write good dll files! Always do a SAVE AS, and before saving, delete the file you are replacing. This is a more sure way to help make a good dll file save.

Every editor I have used has this problem, including the professional resource editors I have tried. They do not seem to be able to overwrite read-only files, but do not tell you they could not, and sometimes write a corrupt file. Maybe it’s a windows API problem, I don’t know.

To save myself a lot of trouble, I used ResHacker to export all my Language 0 resources from all my FL dlls and then re-import them as Language 1033, without replacing my existing Language 1033 resource entries. It was not easy so I don’t want to get you all into troubles by giving incomplete guidance.

Have a go, but make sure you keep good backups of every file you play with.

as much as i luv u ST for you priceless tut’s and info

Dam you make my head hurt sometimes… lolz
I had no idea… being an Aussie & all… of this… Language 1033 dillema… “we spek 'stralian ere m8”

@ Davis, no probs m8 glad i could help any… IDS aren’t really my “thing”… i kinda hate doing em myself…
Be great if FLE just “worked” and placed em right hehe… but as i said… that’d be way too easy… lol

FL modding is full of these little “tricks” & workarounds… some things can be done 2-3 ways…
but we wont go there yet… cross each bridge as you come to it… A good m8 of mine gave me the best advice here…

Go slow… one alteration at a time… then test.

Heheheh… As I remember the Yanks started all this language nonsense, didn’t they? Wanted their own version of English cos they can’t spell in our version, and got low marks in their schools - should have called it Yankish and left us alone.

The bigger problem is that our own litterary twerps (yes that first word always had 2 t’s before, just as litterature still does!) are adding the Yank spelling into the Oxford English Dictionary too, and my old Grammar teachers are tossing and turning in their graves as I write.

And now the UK is dropping the “i before e except after c” rule too!! Sacrilegious Twits!

@Davis:

Thanks ST, its very useful information,

I checked my mod dll file by reshack and there are nodes, contain my unique system properties. I spotted there were strings exist no longer. May i delete these strings manually?

Yes you can, if you mean the old data is in the same resource node as your new data, delete the 0 node - your new one should be in a 1033 node.

If the old data is in a separate resource by itself then yes, you can delete it if it’s not used of course. The whole node will be deleted.

Caution - ResHacker does not tell you the ids number which is used by FL, it only tells you the internal table or resource number. So you have to be careful to get the right ids number.

One more caution - as you have seen, String Table data is in tables, each table can hold 16 entries. If an entry is completely empty, there will be no valid IDS number for that entry. In some FL table entries, there needs to be a space and not a completely empty entry, so that the IDS is valid. One example is the Unknown faction, its short name entry is a blank space so that it shows in the HUD when Unknown faction ships are in range. I used blanks in my mod when I don’t want a rank or name to show for a faction.

Final English lessons:-

1. “its” means belonging to, e.g. “the dog caught its ball” (don’t know where it caught it! - )
2. “it’s” means “it is”, as in “it’s time to play FL”
3. “there” means a physical place, as in “the dog’s ball is over there” or an abstract place, as in “there were several dogs’ balls in the garden”
4. “their” means the plural of belonging to, as in “the dogs caught their balls” - !!

However, an apostrophe (‘) is used in plural in a more difficult way…
1. "The dogs’ balls" means the balls belonging to more than one dog.
2. “The dog’s balls” means the balls belonging to one dog.

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