Anyone else still need a SUR generator?

You too you have issues with sur builder? in conclusion it’s an unusefull program for one reason and one only, this software can’t interpret edges, sadly thing for ultracomplex models.

If you aren’t an expert in UTF Edit you can’t creat very high detailled hitboxes.

I followed this tutorial, but stopped at 5th stage… this is real hell

Is there perhaps a feature included for having multiple SUR parts with the same name? Recall that’s how most of their complex Vanilla base SURs are constructed -giving the functionality of concave parts in the model.

At Nova : Yep…! increadibly horrible… why guys prefer to do things simply when they can doing clomplexes things (ironic).

Why people can’t creat simple softwares who can creat high detailled hitboxes!

Their is for 7 years microsoft release FL and now we haven’t a good hitbox creator… it’s very unbelievable.

Freestalker.fr wrote:
Why people can’t creat simple softwares who can creat high detailled hitboxes!

Alredy done by LS, but the hitbox is not detailed at all. Its great for ships but horrible for stations… If you want it 1:1 to the model, do it by yourself…

Exactly how do you use SUR Builder? If you design your CMP well, it creates a form-fitting SUR. I’ve just built a station sur (it used some 15 convex parts) and it’s as form-fitting as it can get.

The only drawback is that you are stuck with 18 convex parts. Or some 42 if you decide to go the hard way (I’ve been pushing SUR Builder a bit, using 0.003 to remap the cmp into a 127 parts multi-part cmp, then used 0.004 to build the hitbox for that model - all 127 parts are built, but after part #42 the tool does not add them into the sur file for some reason. I’ve even tried editing scriptlist.txt manually to include the extra meshes, but no luck).

Nevertheless, if 18 convex elements are enough, you can construct them manually, export as CMP (with proper names that match your actual CMP) and use SUR Builder on that. That is, SUR Builder can be used as a capable SUR Exporter, for 18 parts max.

There is nothing wrong with edges in my opinion, it has to do with the way you exported your cmp. It’s simple: 1 convex sur part for 1 cmp part. Unfortunately with CMP Exporter’s 18 parts limit, this puts you at serious limits. You can use trickery with SUR Builder 0.003’s remap cmp option - it has worked for me. The only setback is that if this results in more than 42 parts, only the first 42 are added to the final sur file (even though all the parts have been built), at least according to my tests.

@MiniMe: That’s what I’ve been trying to do in the first place, fooling around with a single-part cmp and having a multi-part sur built (based on milkshape groups). In the end I’ve settled with the cmp remap function; it might just even work - consider my notes in this post - if I could get sur builder to add those other meshes to the final sur file.

The reason it doesnt work for edges is because it doesnt use them to make the surs. It is built from the points only.

I will re-enable the mesh splitter and upload it later tonight.

So somebody up to make sur for my bases? Save my mod please
I really dont udrestand how to create normal surs… I use SurBuilder for simple surs for fighters, but i tried a tutorials for complex surs but no result… im in cognitive dissonance when try to do something with sur

Thanks! I wasted a year to make a mod but i cant release it without 3 #$%% surs.

The best I can offer you now is a trade, Nova. If you are interested, drop me an e-mail at jurgendreis [at] gmail [dot] com.

StarTrader wrote:

LS - you really must learn to keep your promises!

Make a Click-Done application is good for that promise, Let’s keep LS busy LOL

You mean this?

Click HERE

Wow, thanks so much, LS. I for one love using your sur builder and found it makes amazing surs if you use the multi-part mode.

Thanks for this!

1 - Create the first sur, if any are missed, select the second folder
2 - Build the sur again using different settings
3 - As you get missing parts, copy just those parts into the first folder
4 - Once you get every piece, reselect the first folder and click ‘Build Sur’, it will pull every file in there to build your sur

As far as making a shield bubble, why not add a bubble to your model as a separate group. Then create a sur for it, then simply delete the sphere before adding it to your mod. That may work (shot in the dark).

it will even work, LS, though in any case the shield bubble wouldn’t disappear when shield is gone. the shield bubble seems to have a special format and only to function if the spaceship is defined as FIGHTER class. if its part of the regular sur, it will be there always.
besides, if you don’t want to see your (mesh)bubble ingame, why should you have a vmeshlibrary in the cmp in your mod, that contains it? waste of hard disc space imo.