Bob's problems with a new ship. (Now a texture issue!)

Kuze

In Hardcmp the ship is textured right? I hope it was not me who did a mistake

Bobthemanofsteel

Gah, right.
Stupid mistake, thanks Chips.

And Kuze, I wish I could answer that question xD
It was my first time hardpointing ever, so I can only hope I did it right.

But should the hardpoints have any correlation to the textures at all? $:\$

Kuze

Afaik the hardpoints are independent from textures. Correct me if I am wrong.

Chips

Bobthemanofsteel wrote:
Gah, right.
Stupid mistake, thanks Chips.

You’ve no idea how many times I used to do this
Even after modding for a year, I still used to stuff up on a regular occasion

Bobthemanofsteel

@Kuze
That’s what I’d think, but I’m in no way an expert.
I’ll try with another of your ships and see if it works okay.

@Chips
Heheh, I think I will be the same, probably worse

StarTrader

Is your .mat filename the same as the .cmp filename? It should be, also the .sur filename should be the same, and all should be in the same folder. Actually you can have the .mat file in another folder but I put them together if there is only 1 ship using these textures.

You must name the .mat and .cmp paths and filenames in shiparch.ini - but not the .sur, this is automatically looked for in the .cmp file’s folder.

e.g.:
DA_archetype = SHIPS\LIBERTY\li_elite\li_elite.cmp
material_library = SHIPS\LIBERTY\li_elite\li_elite.mat

or
DA_archetype = SHIPS\LIBERTY\li_elite\li_elite.cmp
material_library = SHIPS\LIBERTY\li_playerships.mat

If you changed material names in the .cmp file then you should export a new .mat file to be correct otherwise the textures will not be found.

If everything is OK, the cause of the blank (white) ship has been the detail resolution slider being too low in the game Options.

Bobthemanofsteel

It all checks out ST. There doesn’t appear to be a .sur file though. :S

However,
I have discovered the wonders of the spew;

WARNING:General:create_texture: D3DERR_INVALIDCALL WARNING:General:load_tga_mips: cav_hull01.tga: failed to create texture! WARNING:General:load_tga_mips: cav_hull01.tga: mip invalid! WARNING:General:failed to load ‘cav_hull01.tga’ WARNING:General:create_texture: D3DERR_INVALIDCALL WARNING:General:load_tga_mips: cav_hull02.tga: failed to create texture! WARNING:General:load_tga_mips: cav_hull02.tga: mip invalid! WARNING:General:failed to load ‘cav_hull02.tga’ WARNING:General:create_texture: D3DERR_INVALIDCALL WARNING:General:load_tga_mips: cav_hull03.tga: failed to create texture! WARNING:General:load_tga_mips: cav_hull03.tga: mip invalid! WARNING:General:failed to load ‘cav_hull03.tga’ WARNING:General:create_texture: D3DERR_INVALIDCALL WARNING:General:load_tga_mips: cav_hull04.tga: failed to create texture! WARNING:General:load_tga_mips: cav_hull04.tga: mip invalid! WARNING:General:failed to load ‘cav_hull04.tga’ WARNING:General:create_texture: D3DERR_INVALIDCALL WARNING:General:load_tga_mips: cav_grill.tga: failed to create texture! WARNING:General:load_tga_mips: cav_grill.tga: mip invalid! WARNING:General:failed to load ‘cav_grill.tga’ WARNING:General:create_texture: D3DERR_INVALIDCALL WARNING:General:load_tga_mips: cav_light.tga: failed to create texture! WARNING:General:load_tga_mips: cav_light.tga: mip invalid! WARNING:General:failed to load ‘cav_light.tga’

I have the feeling this means the .mat is borked?

StarTrader

Post up your .cmp and.mat and let’s see if we can help spot it.

Sushi

Ya. That’s a .mat problem.

Bobthemanofsteel

Here’s the whole folder.
(Attached)

EDIT: It occurs to me, unless my hardpointing broke t somehow… I haven’t edited the mat at all, so t could be an issue with Kuze’s upload of it.

Kuze

In HardCMP the ship is textured and fine for me.

Bobthemanofsteel

Yep, it’s fine in HardCMP, I agree.
Apparently not in game, though. $:\$

Oh right, I was gonna test one of the other ones, one that others had used already.

Sushi

.cmp checks out.
.mat checks out.
(by checks out I mean naming is correct)

Texture don’t check out. I was unable to both open them as a .dds or a .tga in adobe CS4. After exporting via .cmp importer I was unable to import back into milkshape…this is odd because they work both in hardcmp and UTFEditor.

Did you do any editing to the textures?

Bobthemanofsteel

As mentioned, no, I did’t do anything but hardpoint the cmp.

I just tried the merchantman freighter from the same pack, and it worked fine, no problems at all.

Kuze, is there a possibility the mat you created got corrupted somehow before upload?

I realise it’s not a huge priority, but I’m a big fan of the CAV and was planning to use it for FL10K (Was checking it out before I approached you for permission )

Kuze

Hmm yea the textures are not working for me too. Heres an attachment with the milk file and dds textures.

Capt.Morgan

The textures in the CAV’s MAT are in JPG format. For FL, it has to be DDS or TGA, but HardCMP is a bit less picky. This is why you’re having problems.

Now, here’s what you can do. Extract all the textures using the UTF editor. You’ll save them one at a time. Once that’s done, delete the MIP0 node that it’s attached to, then put the node back in by creating a new node and renaming it to MIP0 (or MIPS if MIP0 doesn’t work for some reason. I’m not sure what the difference is.)

Next, open the textures in your editor of choice and save them as TGA or DDS. I suggest DDS, as TGA takes up loads more space. The DDS needs to have one-channel alpha (DXT1 if you’re using Paint.net) or it won’t work.

Finally, import the newly saved DDS or TGA files into the MAT’s now empty MIP0 nodes. If all went well, you should be good to go.

EDIT: Or, you could just use the textures that Kuze uploaded in his last post.

Bobthemanofsteel

Thanks heaps guys!

I tried what Morgan suggested, using the textures provided by Kuze, but now I get a different error.

WARNING:General:failed to load ‘cav_hull01.tga’
WARNING:General:failed to load ‘cav_hull02.tga’
WARNING:General:failed to load ‘cav_hull03.tga’
WARNING:General:failed to load ‘cav_hull04.tga’
WARNING:General:failed to load ‘cav_grill.tga’
WARNING:General:failed to load ‘cav_light.tga’

Same thing happens when I rename those nodes to .dds instead of .tga

Nightstalker

Try this one

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20318199/CAV.zip

Bobthemanofsteel

Ah, that works, thanks!

EDIT: But… It’s huge.

StarTrader

Capt.Morgan wrote:
The textures in the CAV’s MAT are in JPG format. For FL, it has to be DDS or TGA, but HardCMP is a bit less picky. This is why you’re having problems.

Now, here’s what you can do. Extract all the textures using the UTF editor. You’ll save them one at a time. Once that’s done, delete the MIP0 node that it’s attached to, then put the node back in by creating a new node and renaming it to MIP0 (or MIPS if MIP0 doesn’t work for some reason. I’m not sure what the difference is.)…

MIP0 to MIP8 = TGA textures.
MIPS = DDS Texture. MIP Maps can be included inside this node, it is an option of the DDS exporter for Photoshop, and may also be in the exporters for GIMP and PAINT.NET too.

No need to delete the MIP0 node - you can rename it to MIPS when needed, just import your new dds texture into the same node and rename it MIPS…

But if you do this and there are MIP1 or more nodes - can be up to MIP8 - then you must delete these, they are not needed.