Effects

Wolfie

ya mean like this:

; ALE Scripter By DB Software
; Original filename is "gf_tradelaneendsplash.ale"
;******************************************************************************************************

[ALE]
Version = 1.1
; Number of sections = 3

; ****************************************************************************

[Section]
; ==> 1
FX_Type = FxBasicAppearance

Node_Name = gf_tradelaneendsplashnew.app ; 0x1A97F2A1 446165665

Node_LifeSpan = 3.0000000000000000

Node_Transform = {}

Appearance_LODCurve = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
SubEntry = 0.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000
SubFlag = 4
}

BasicApp_TriTexture = True

BasicApp_QuadTexture = False

BasicApp_MotionBlur = True

BasicApp_Color = {
Flag = 4
Entry = 0.0000000000000000
SubFlag = 4
SubEntry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.4901961088180542, 0.4901961088180542, 1.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 1.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000
}

BasicApp_Alpha = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
SubEntry = 0.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000, 0.0012410000199452
SubFlag = 4
}

BasicApp_Size = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
SubEntry = 0.0000000000000000, 20.0000000000000000
SubFlag = 4
}

BasicApp_HToVAspect = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000
}

BasicApp_Rotate = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
SubEntry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubFlag = 4
}

BasicApp_TexName = planetflare ; 0x13E2D528 34123860

BasicApp_BlendInfo = 5, 2

BasicApp_UseCommonTexFrame = True

BasicApp_TexFrame = {
Flag = 4
Entry = 0.0000000000000000
SubFlag = 4
SubEntry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
}

BasicApp_CommonTexFrame = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
}

BasicApp_FlipTexU = True

BasicApp_FlipTexV = True

; ****************************************************************************

[Section]
; ==> 2
FX_Type = FxConeEmitter

Node_Name = gf_tradelaneendsplash_Conenew.emt ; 0xEACBAB55 3939216213

Node_LifeSpan = 2.0000000000000000

Node_Transform = {
Flag = 4
Header = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
HFlag = 4
HTail = 0
Header = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
HFlag = 4
HTail = 0
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
EType = 1
ETail = 0
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
EType = 1
ETail = 0
SEntry = 0.0000000000000000, -90.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SFlag = 0
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
EType = 1
ETail = 0
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
EType = 1
ETail = 0
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
EType = 1
ETail = 0
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
EType = 1
ETail = 0
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
EType = 1
ETail = 0
}

Emitter_LODCurve = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
SubEntry = 0.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000
SubFlag = 4
}

Emitter_InitialParticles = 0

Emitter_Frequency = {
Flag = 4
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 100.0000000000000000
EFlag = 0
SubFlag = 2
SubEntry = -0.0034849999938160, 225.3201293945312500, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.4018868505954742, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
}

Emitter_MaxParticles = {
Flag = 4
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 10000.0000000000000000
EFlag = 0
}

Emitter_EmitCount = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
}

Emitter_InitLifeSpan = {
Flag = 4
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 2.0000000000000000
EFlag = 0
SubFlag = 21
SubEntry = -0.0579088404774666, 1.3900524377822876, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.0351229794323444, 1.6478916406631470, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.1058981120586395, 1.3769224882125854, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.1412869393825531, 1.5585585832595825, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.2249331176280975, 1.5615367889404297, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.2313671112060547, 1.4573193788528442, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.3021459579467773, 1.3024809360504150, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.3632711172103882, 1.4543414115905762, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.3761401176452637, 1.5942906141281128, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.4404820799827576, 1.4305204153060913, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.4726529717445374, 1.5555837154388428, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.5241299271583557, 1.3292773962020874, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.5949060916900635, 1.3560786247253418, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.6045591235160828, 1.6508674621582031, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.6753351092338562, 1.5168719291687012, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.7654129266738892, 1.4305186271667480, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.8072391152381897, 1.5317598581314087, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.8844500780105591, 1.4424303770065308, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.8973190784454346, 1.4066984653472900, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.9230561256408691, 1.5138939619064331, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.9262730479240418, 1.5198498964309692, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
}

Emitter_Pressure = {
Flag = 4
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 10.0000000000000000
EFlag = 0
SubFlag = 1
SubEntry = -0.0002680000034161, 0.3995040059089661, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
}

Emitter_VelocityApproach = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
}

ConeEmitter_MinRadius = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = -0.0195700004696846, 59.4491271972656250, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
}

ConeEmitter_MaxRadius = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 90.0000000000000000, 90.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
}

ConeEmitter_MinSpread = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.0000000000000000, 90.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
}

ConeEmitter_MaxSpread = {
Flag = 4
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
EFlag = 0
SubFlag = 1
SubEntry = 0.0000000000000000, 90.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
}

; ****************************************************************************

[Section]
; ==> 3
FX_Type = FxAirField

Node_Name = gf_tradelaneendsplashnew ; 0xE9CF1664 3922663012

Node_LifeSpan = 3.0000000000000000

Node_Transform = {
Flag = 4
Header = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
HFlag = 4
HTail = 0
Header = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
HFlag = 4
HTail = 0
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
EType = 1
ETail = 0
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
EType = 1
ETail = 0
SEntry = 0.0000000000000000, -90.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SFlag = 0
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
EType = 1
ETail = 0
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
EType = 1
ETail = 0
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
EType = 1
ETail = 0
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
EType = 1
ETail = 0
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
EType = 1
ETail = 0
}

AirField_Magnitude = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.0000000000000000, 1002.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000, -1000.2546386718750000
SubEntry = 0.6013399958610535, 1.2431429624557495, 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
}

AirField_Approach = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000
}

;00000604 **** EOF ****

; ---> ; ALE Effects Library <=> gf_tradelaneendsplash.ale
; DB Software
*********************************************************************

[ALE]
Version = 1.1
; Number of parts = 1

Type = Layer0
[Section]
; ==> 1

Effect_Name = gf_tradelaneendsplashnew

ULParams = 0, 0, 0

; *** Param #1
ANL_Nickname = gf_tradelaneendsplashnew.app ; 0x1A97F2A1 446165665
Parent = NULL
FX_Slot = 3
Slot_Flag = 0
; *** Param #2
ANL_Nickname = gf_tradelaneendsplash_Conenew.emt ; 0xEACBAB55 3939216213
Parent = NULL
FX_Slot = 4
Slot_Flag = 0
; *** Param #3
ANL_Nickname = gf_tradelaneendsplashnew ; 0xE9CF1664 3922663012
Parent = 3
FX_Slot = 5
Slot_Flag = 2

Slot_Order = 3, 4, 5

Wolfie

BUMP

LancerSolurus

**Looking at your code above, you now have the proper Slot Order but you still don’t have a Main_Node in there. Decompile any ALE and you will see what I mean. Your FX will never work without it since FL uses the Main_Node to activate your FX.

Second, your naming is bad

gf_tradelaneendsplash_Conenew.emt

Should be gf_tradelaneendsplashnew_Cone.emt

You can’t mess with the extension naming (_Conenew.emt) must stay (_Cone.emt). FL uses that internally to determine which part of the FX it is.**

Wolfie

this may look like 2 noob questions…what file do i use when ecoding? and how would main node be coded?

Wolfie

BUMP FOR THE NOOB QUESTION

Mini_Me

believe it was the AEL file you select when encoding.
Main_Node is the nickname found in the AEL file as the first FX slot nickname; referencing and in place of the first [Section] Node_Name. In most ale’s, that is an emitter / .emt

Wolfie

so…the main node is:

[Section]
; ==> 1
FX_Type = FxBasicAppearance

Node_Name = gf_tradelaneendsplashnew.app ; 0x1A97F2A1 446165665

Node_LifeSpan = 3.0000000000000000

Node_Transform = {}

Appearance_LODCurve = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
SubEntry = 0.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000
SubFlag = 4
}

BasicApp_TriTexture = True

BasicApp_QuadTexture = False

BasicApp_MotionBlur = True

BasicApp_Color = {
Flag = 4
Entry = 0.0000000000000000
SubFlag = 4
SubEntry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.4901961088180542, 0.4901961088180542, 1.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 1.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000
}

BasicApp_Alpha = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
SubEntry = 0.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000, 0.0012410000199452
SubFlag = 4
}

BasicApp_Size = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
SubEntry = 0.0000000000000000, 20.0000000000000000
SubFlag = 4
}

BasicApp_HToVAspect = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000
SubEntry = 0.0000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000
}

BasicApp_Rotate = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000
EFlag = 4
SubEntry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
SubFlag = 4
}

BasicApp_TexName = planetflare ; 0x13E2D528 34123860

BasicApp_BlendInfo = 5, 2

BasicApp_UseCommonTexFrame = True

BasicApp_TexFrame = {
Flag = 4
Entry = 0.0000000000000000
SubFlag = 4
SubEntry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
}

BasicApp_CommonTexFrame = {
Entry = 0.0000000000000000, 0.0000000000000000
}

BasicApp_FlipTexU = True

BasicApp_FlipTexV = True

Wolfie

BUMP

Wolfie

let me introduce UBERBUMP ;D

Mindhunter

Wolfie i wish i could help u but i have less .ale knowledge than u. $:-\$

FriendlyFire

Did you try comparing your FX with another of similar length (like 3 emitters and 3 apps if you have 3 emts and 3 apps) and see if there’s any large dissimilarity? I’d especially review the AEL file, as that’s where a lot of errors can come from.

LancerSolurus

**I finally got around to decompiling this FX and it turns out that it doesn’t have a main node at all.

I would suggest that you start out by making minor changes to the files, testing them each time.

Suggested naming
Effect_Name = gf_newtradelaneendsplash

ANL_Nickname =
gf_newtradelaneendsplash.app
gf_newtradelaneendsplash_Cone.emt
gf_newtradelaneendsplash

Effect_CRC = 321120139

Don’t forget to change the names in both the .ael and .anl files before encoding them into a .tale file.

This goes in misc_ale.ini…

[VisEffect]
nickname = gf_newtradelaneendsplash
alchemy = fx\misc\gf_newtradelaneendsplash.tale
effect_crc = 321120139
textures = fx\planetflare.txm**

Wolfie

it still wont WORK!

u can have a look at it urselfs: http://two.xthost.info/Wolfie/Mods/misc.rar

Wolfie

BUMP

Mini_Me

first rule of modding: take things step by step
If you’ve got 10 files you’re changing, only change 1 at a time.
In each file there are quite a few places things can go wrong, so only change one section at a time, retest, if it works; continue.
We’re on new ground with ALE editing, so not all the relations between things have been worked out. If you only changed colors, textures, and naming then you should be able to use the original for a reference (shouldn’t even need to reorder the sections).
Experimenting is always a good way to learn things, so don’t hesitate to open up other ALEs and write down notes on the order of things, the effects that changing values in each section has, etc. That’s how I figured out how to actually get an effect to use throttle.

I know this doesn’t help you immediately, but it will in the future

Wolfie

ok…i question here (again) what should i calculate 2 a CRC? LOL

mknote

Use the CRC Calculator that LS made. Simple, really.

MK

Wolfie

…i mean

should i use the effect name or should i use the fx\glyphs.txm (example)

mknote

Assuming you’re using LS’s ALE editor, what you want is in the .ael file:

Effect_Name = xyz

In which case, you’d find the CRC for xyz.

MK

LancerSolurus

**This is from the ‘asteroiddust.ale’ file…

In the .ael you have…

Effect_Name = asteroiddust

The Hash calculator gives a value of 33949935 under ‘Effect CRC’. This is the value you would use.
33949935 = asteroiddust** [