Graphics lag?
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Hey folks I’m sort out of ideas on how to address this so here I am ;D Currently I have a brand new desktop (Intel quad @ 2.5ghz, 4gb ddr2 ram, 1tb sata hdd, geforce 9400 gt) running XP Pro with SP2. I am getting rather unplayble levels of graphics lag (typically around jump holes/gates or intense combat) which slow my fps rate down to 20 or less (ordinarily it’s like 50+) and I don’t understand why. I’ve tried restricting FL to one core only with no success. The graphics drivers are up to date so it’s not that (older version I have does nothing either). I’ve tried applying the hardware fix with no results. I’ve tried turning off all the options and lowering the details and resolution in game with no results. I had the same issue with it when I had Vista Home 64 installed before going back to XP. I’ve been told really new cards just do this on FL due to fundamental incompatibility but I’m hoping this is either not the case or else there’s a workaround for it. I find it supremely frustrating that my brand new computer that can run every OTHER game I own flawlessly gets caught up on Freelancer.
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Dual core her if ye can…
Adjust GFX settings from your GFXcard control panel… kill all AA… and “extras” that some cards use to boost dx8 Graphics…
Try the new “Priority manager” as well…
Kill ALL unused background programs ie:MSN… ADOBE… ect….All else fails m8… Grab the ENB… and run it on lowest settings (just for the dx9 “wrapper”)
These are all the things i can think of on the spot… I have a Vista H Premium machine running a 9500GT NVid…
before the GT i was using the chipset (NV7150) and has no probs there as well.Best of luck ;D
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Try this one.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896256
I had a simular issue with my old comp, AMD X2 6000 thingy with a SLI based 8800GTX setup.
Apparently FL doesn’t like XP / Vista with multiple cores and energy saving.Somehow Intel / MS fixed the issue cos with my current setup: i7 920 on a mobo with x58 chipset and a GTX285 i don’t have any issues.
Ohh also disable 3D sound in Freelancer, could solve your problems as well.
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The mod I play on has 3D sound disabled permanently so no issues there.
I downloaded the fix and got all of zero results. I’m beginning to suspect it was never my CPU to begin with as my framerate doesn’t seem to change when I set affinity now.
No matter how I tweak the card I get the same lag whenever I get into combat or do rapid spinning or move around next to large effects like jump holes. I’m completely out of ideas now and this issue has made it virtually impossible to actually fight while I’m playing, which sort of defeats the purpose of having the thing installed in the first place.
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That really sounds like a configuration issue with the nVidia control panel. I know for a while I was forcing antialiasing on FL and it’d lag like crazy when the camera was traversing semi-transparent effects (I have a 8800 GTX, for reference).
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Just a couple of thoughts for you -
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is your hard disk one big lotsa-gigs C drive with lots of files on it? Should be partitioned, you don’t want more than 20GB for your C disk, and keep only Windows stuff on it. Install progs on D or E or F etc and keep your data files on any except C. This is because when you have only 1 partition with 200,000 files on it they are all in the root! The librarian (cpu) has to scan all to get the one he wants, and then keep on doing it for the next etc.
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screen resolution?
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low space on C drive (you can move your paging file to another partition and you should do that).
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antivirus - Symantec is the worst for slowing down a PC; AVG is better but still makes it splutter now and then by the time it passes a requested file to the prog, Avira I heard is better but haven’t tried it - but it’s the realtime file protection in all of these that kills performance. Disable whichever you have for a quick trial to see.
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get a copy of jkdefrag and run that and see what happens.
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my machine is a single-core 3.6GHz and has a built-in graphics adapter and was extremely similar to what you describe. :-[
… last month I put in an old nVidia 5700 with 64MB ram on it and it runs like water flowing fast in a bubbling brook now! ;D
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@FF: That sounds similar to my problem but I’m not 100%. I notice slowdowns when I pan over SWWT’s jump holes and most nebulas, in addition to when I’m spinning and there’s a lot of fire coming at/from me.
@ST: Yes my hdd is just the one partition, although at the moment there’s virtually nothing on the thing and probably never will be as I can’t imagine needing 1TB of space. Even my old 160GB hdd never filled to capacity. I’ve never fooled around with partitions before and so would be in the dark as to how to create them. I’m guessing there are programs that can help me with this?
I’ve tried the game at all resolutions but on my old box (AMD 3200+ single core with 128MB GPU) I ran the game on 1600x1200x32 with all options on with no issues so that’s what I’ve been attempting.
Dear Bob no ;D I’ve got like 900GB free on this monstrosity.
I use AVG 8.5, although I don’t have it turned on while I play so it’s a non-issue.
I have no idea what that is but I’ll give it a shot I guess.
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Many A/V programs don’t completely deactivate themselves even if they are turned “off”. I’d suggest you try uninstalling it and try it out if you can’t find any other solution.
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Do what you will mate, I’m just saying antivirus software is usually tricky. I heard some behave nearly like rootkits and as such don’t need to have processes running to interfere with the system. Uninstalling probably won’t help, but I always say: don’t ignore an option just because you think it’s not it.
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OK, recently FF’s latest FL Developer was taking several minutes to load the .dll files, which he thinks it might be because he made this version multi-threading to take advantage of dual-core machines - mine has only 1 and I got this awful slow-down whereas the previous version loaded the same .dlls in a jiffy.
Is there a way to disable the dual-core temporarily for FL to check?
Just shooting in the dark here.
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I’d just make sure your graphics drivers aren’t forcing options, if it has a control ox, like the CCC for ATI, you can disable them completely, and the drivers still work the same. But you don’t get annoying forced settings.
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The control panel has been set to all off before, although some of those options are forced off and I’m not sure what FL does and does not support graphics wise. Most of the features are either force on/off or application controlled. Setting to app controlled nets me nothing although there is an option in the panel to enable multi-threading for older games so in theory the .dll thing shouldn’t be an issue, but with FL who knows.
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It could just be a simple case of FL not recognising your card, if it’s specifications aren’t listed in the “flconfigdatabase.txt” then there’s every chance you’ll have graphics problems.
Louva (EOA) updated this file by adding more modern cards to it.
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Oh, Been there before,
1st, Cross fingers and await next version of nForce Drivers as it might suddenly fix the problem.
2nd, If your using “tweeked” drivers from card maker, you might want to try the NVIDIA reference drivers for that card instead.
3rd, Unlikely but have seen it happen, make certain that your card, if it has multiple outputs and one is Composite, SVGA, or even a HDMI, is not running in Dual Mode (Or what ever your card maker calls it). A lot of cards act like yours when trying to stay in “TV Output Compatible Mode” at odd resolutions and color settings.
Well I figured I’d post something in here just to clear it up and in case anyone else happens to have the same card. The GeForce 9400 is one of those cards that FL simply doesn’t like so avoid it like the plauge ;D
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So digdug - is it a case of it just doesn’t like your card?
Was it solved by using another card?
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I run a core i3 with a GT630 from Nvidia and I get a whopping 1fps…. I contacted Nvidia and they keep telling me it’s the game and not their card. The game ran perfect before the card was installed so screw them. I just want to find a fix for this damn issue so I can get back on FLU and continue my Admin duties.
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If you already had freelancer installed before you changed graphics card, then I would try uninstalling FL fully and then reinstall, many games have to be reinstalled when you change cards.
Failing that, remove the video card and try playing with your i3’s onboard graphics, or disable your i3’s onboard graphics in the bios so you only have the 630 working. It’s not the video card that’s causing you grief, it’s your system setup in one form or another.
