HELP! Repeated tradelane crash at first gate goin from LD-14

FriendlyFire

And please, next time, attach a file or link it up somewhere instead of posting it all on the forums.

Forsaken

Comment out your miningppatrol and/or the gun boat encounters and see what happens. I delt with this problem awhile back and IIRC it was something to do with that.

Vital

Comment out all your patrol_path behavior encounters.

And set to 0.0 probability of that tradelane encounters and see what happens

rasauul

I tried what you suggested and replaced the Br04.ini with a sdk 1.3 one. and guess what no crash! this is great now i know the bug is located in the Br04.ini……

Then i checked out the differences between the two inis using a great program called WinMerge that bullwinkle suggrested to me.

now my Modded Br04.ini contains modded giant planets, so i brought in all differences from the working sdk ini to my modded one…except the planets

…and got a Crash…ok…this means it must be the modded giant planets…however i use these in many other system with no problemos…so it must be the relationship between the modded planets and the rest of the modded ini…

Im going hunting for popzone/modded planet overlaps!

…brb

Zoning in…Vital you got something, i took out all patrol paths and guess what …no crash…

Been loading them back in faction by faction, these guys are causing the crash:

[zone]
nickname = Zone_Br04_path_police1_1
pos = 23878, 0, 8133
rotate = 90, 24, 180
shape = CYLINDER
size = 750, 63523
sort = 99
toughness = 6
density = 3
repop_time = 90
max_battle_size = 4
pop_type = lane_patrol
relief_time = 30
path_label = police1, 1
usage = patrol
mission_eligible = true
faction_weight = br_p_grp, 10
density_restriction = 1, patroller
density_restriction = 1, police_patroller
density_restriction = 1, pirate_patroller
density_restriction = 4, lawfuls
density_restriction = 4, unlawfuls
encounter = patrolp_gov_patrol, 6, 0.330000
faction = br_p_grp, 1.000000

[zone]
nickname = Zone_Br04_path_police2_1
pos = 6329, 0, 61226
rotate = -90, -11, 0
shape = CYLINDER
size = 750, 58604
sort = 99
toughness = 6
density = 3
repop_time = 90
max_battle_size = 4
pop_type = lane_patrol
relief_time = 30
path_label = police2, 1
usage = patrol
mission_eligible = true
faction_weight = br_p_grp, 10
density_restriction = 1, patroller
density_restriction = 1, police_patroller
density_restriction = 1, pirate_patroller
density_restriction = 4, lawfuls
density_restriction = 4, unlawfuls
encounter = patrolp_gov_patrol, 6, 0.330000
faction = br_p_grp, 1.000000

[zone]
nickname = Zone_Br04_path_police3_1
pos = -38500, 0, 34557
rotate = 90, -88, 180
shape = CYLINDER
size = 750, 102837
sort = 99
toughness = 6
density = 3
repop_time = 90
max_battle_size = 4
pop_type = lane_patrol
relief_time = 30
path_label = police3, 1
usage = patrol
mission_eligible = true
faction_weight = br_p_grp, 10
density_restriction = 1, patroller
density_restriction = 1, police_patroller
density_restriction = 1, pirate_patroller
density_restriction = 4, lawfuls
density_restriction = 4, unlawfuls
encounter = patrolp_gov_patrol, 6, 0.330000
faction = br_p_grp, 1.000000

Why exactly? im not sure but it definitely is related to the new giant planets……

rasauul

Thx for the feedback Forsaken

Ras

rasauul

Thanks for the feedback Vital

Ras

Xarian_Prime

This is probaly the same thing i get get near LD-14… & many other places as well… that are near a patrol path of some kind

Really… We need a new SDK… one that actualy takes into account all the things we’ve found over the past 2 years (like this) & is clean & somewhat more stable. I for one am quite sick of tracking down bugs in the vanilla code… hence my little “break” atm.

Ras… your probably the 100,000,000th person to be bitten by this m8
Maybe something for Adoxa to take onboard for the next JFLP (if there is one?.. don’t make me beg man… lol)

Best of luck Ras

rasauul

Nice to see you in on the thread too Xarian, yeah man haha this has been a mean one……and im still not entirely sure what caused it… except that when i took out my giant planets the game had no problems with those 3 zones…

StarTrader

When you made your planets and positioned them vertically too, did you move the tradelanes and tradelane zones and patrol paths too?

rasauul

No i left them as they were……is it the location of the dockrings in relation to the patrolpaths?

Should i move the dockrings back to previous location for the lane-patrol to not cause the crash?

Gisteron

definately, yes. if you have a patrol that has to dock with a certain base, the base must be at least quite near to the path. except for npc’s the entries of a system are independent from each other. another problem could therefore be within e.g. your solararch.ini or the sph itself. maybe planet leeds, as it is not used in any other system (if im right). however, remember or note down everything you try out and every change. makes work much faster

Vital

In Order to find out weather your crash is patrol_path behavior related:
Step 1:
raise this constant(2-4 times or more):

25000000f in content.dll, 0x??????, 0x1195D4 = square of the distance from the end of the patrol_path to the object over which patrol_path NPCs won't dock with it (so far tested only with jumpgates; raising this may prevent PP crashes?)

still crashes(make no less than 10 tests)?

Step 2:
Comment out all of your encounters that use patrol_path behavior.

No crashes? Check everything that is related to your patrol_path behavior encounters.

Bullwinkle

Vital wrote:
In Order to find out weather your crash is patrol_path behavior related:
Step 1:
…
Step 2:

Nice tests, Vital!

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