Brrr and wut wit TLR?
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This is a split, except if you don’t view TSP as a freelancer community site that is. I do wish you luck in rebuilding the FL community, but I would like to see this split between TSP and TLR to come to an end.
Several people has to let their personal views to waste for this to happen, and I doubt this will actually happen.
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Actually, the split is definately not coming from our end.
We are not afraid of letting people link to other places and websites.
I think what will mostly encourage any split within the FL community is Swat’s and now TLR’s seperate community network bar.
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I didn’t sense any drama in this thread OP, but now the tone seems to have changed. Those are some harsh and uncompromising words delivered in the form of what seems to be an ultimatum. Chill out man, no need to turn general chit chat into a flamefest. Cue blood, snot and all kinds of french. Should I go and fetch the soapbox?
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…and i dont like when ppl claim i would do illegal stuff and intent to damage other FL communities.
I came to this thread because of some unfair and wrong statements that previously have been done on that thread.
I have stated what is going on at TLR right now, what our intentions are and what people willing to help can expect from the new lancersreactor. In no way I have done any threats towards TSP or its members aswell as I have not set an ultimatum. I made a suggestion/offer. You are free to accept it for the good of the FL community or you can continue to twist my words and blame me for using a different community bar (if that is your only concern). Ever considered that our websites have different needs? -
or you can continue to twist my words
my only fear is that those people will side with OP and cause havoc for sites that are in “competition” with TLR and/or Swat.
…and i dont like when ppl claim i would do illegal stuff and intent to damage other FL communities.
Glasshouse?
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What the hell?
Could someone please explain to me what another persons beliefs about OP has to do with the real OP?
Also, OP, please stay for a little while, maybe we can settle this in an another way than split.
w0dk4: Blaming someone else for the split is exactly what we DON’T need if trying to get the FL community together.
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…who ever throws the first stone
make sure to read the comments about me and tlr BEFORE i made my first postyep right… they side with me to cause havoc… that is of course our intention… and of course i am a person which would allow such ppl to side with me so they can cause that havoc in the name of TLR and SWAT
guess what… you are right
The FL community is split and no matter how much I try to change that situation some people will never allow me to succeed.
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My guess Wolfie would be that there’s much more to this than meets the eye, I haven’t observed much in the way of hostility towards people around here, but when this guy shows up the s h i t always seems to hit the fan.
Whatever it is he’s said or done, it obviously runs deep, and for those of us that just kick around here without knowledge of all the background noise, we’ll never understand it. I don’t know about you, but if I knew I was not welcome somewhere, and that the only thing that could come of me showing up there would be trouble, I wouldn’t go there, unless of course I was intent on causing trouble.
Certainly beginning to get a picture of what all this “drama” stuff is about, seems to begin with O and end in P. Still, having said that, I’ve no personal reason to dislike the guy, but I like this place and so feel a certain loyalty towards the people who make it possible for me to be here.
Also, they’ve helped me out, bitch slapped me, flamed me, corrected my grammar on occasion (you know who you are punks) and generally made me realise I’m clueless about most things except how to constuct and throw a mud pie on occasion. What more can you ask for?
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Timmy51m: I’ve been here for years, yes, periods of inactivity (I just got back from one), but I’ve seen the development here in person. I think I have the knowledge to speak about this and free my opinion.
I side with noone in this case to be honest, I want them to get along.
EDIT: Just to clear up, this is mainly following conflicts after TLR split, and later codesharing issues.
I’m not saying its OPs fault TLR split.
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You’re not entitled to an opinion, the only opinion that matters is mine. Your periods of inactivity are unacceptable, your knowledge is insufficient, there was no TLR split and there were no codesharing issues. Nothing is clear. Oh the drama!
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This “us vs them” mentality really sounds like one odd false dichotomy, wouldn’t you say? For some reason, TSP is antagonized against everyone else. How curious…
I’m sorry, but no, I don’t spend a lot of time on other sites. I have a lot to do and TSP is enough for me. Does that make me biased? Obviously, I started this site. Does that make me evil, does it make me not care? Hell no. I don’t even see how you can say those words and mean them. If you want to expand this sentiment to all the people around here, well I’m sorry but this is a community. I’m not going to force anyone to go anywhere. The FLCN has links to all major sites and many minor ones, TSP’s never removed, altered or edited links or references to any other site. I don’t exactly see what we could do more bar just disappearing and merging into whatever other site there is. Is that what you want? Sharing goes both ways, I shall point out. We’ve done a lot, I think, but we haven’t received any request or any suggestion, not a darn thing.
As for the illegality comment, you very, very well know what w0dk4 was talking about and are just grasping at straws trying to cast us in a bad light for some reason I do not exactly comprehend. You’ve always been the antagonizing one and we’ve let you voice your opinion on our site. Many people tell me we shouldn’t be so lenient. Who’s right?
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AzzA wrote:
Op asked for domain db etc. I said yes there is 0 conspiracy or drama this time. I am closing out and hopefully this time I can stay out. Good luck here and good luck to op.some names
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Holy crap theres some names I havent seen for a while lol Wonder how most of those guys are doing…
Also.
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i expected FF and OP actually to be sensible enough to let each other alone. (sry on this comment)
i have to agree, to me, too, OP often seemed to be somewhat aggressive and yes, even arrogant and/or proud a bit more than i’d like s.o. to be. but you know what? who cares! we are not here to become friends, we are not even here to like each other personally. the reason we are here is the survival of FL. agree with that not every part of the community works for his neighbour part. it is fact and it won’t be easy and fast to undo this changes. the most stupid thing we can do now is blaming each other for that. we might not have understood this, but OP recently did most sensible of all: he left this thread and got back to the usual work in sense of keeping FL on its feet. we might be angry, we might dislike what he said of us and his behavior, but that is only because we do not understand him entirely. maybe he doesn’t understand us, too. the best thing FF could do now is, as well, closing this thread and get back to the work he did before and to piece we had before.and no, spare your replies about “but i don’t get, why HE does so” or “yea, but its HIS fault”. neither “no, its THEIR/YOUR fault”. we had enough of this.
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OPR8R wrote:
guess what… you are right
The FL community is split and no matter how much I try to change that situation some people will never allow me to succeed.
So I stop trying, at least here.You know, a start would be to allow links and discussions about TSP at TLR.
(Im pretty sure there was a link to TSP in this thread but it could’ve been AzzA who deleted that post)Next steps would maybe be a link exchange?
We could also include a link to TLR in our community bar when you include a link to TSP in your community bar.
