Nova continues learning the ALE :D

Nova

Hi bros, its me again!
I learned something in ALE, and made a little prototype of beam flash.
But i still have a questions and i hope you can answer them.
I decided to create new topic because there was a lot of flood in old.

So…

How to attach multiple effects?
I mean, that 1 effect is a beam:

ANL_Nickname = kavash_laser_2_flash.app
Parent = 1
FX_Slot = 3
Slot_Flag = 0
ANL_Nickname = kavash_laser_2_flash.emt
Parent = 1
FX_Slot = 2
Slot_Flag = 1
Slot_Order = 1, 2, 3

And I want to add another one: maybe a muzzle flash or another beam rotated at 45° to make the beam more nice than 2 crossed flat textures.
So how i have to add it?

ANL_Nickname = Main_Node ; 0xEE223B51 3995220817
Parent = NULL
FX_Slot = 1
Slot_Flag = 0

ANL_Nickname = kavash_laser_2_flash.app
Parent = 1
FX_Slot = 3
Slot_Flag = 0

ANL_Nickname = kavash_laser_2_flash.emt
Parent = 1
FX_Slot = 2
Slot_Flag = 1

ANL_Nickname = kavash_laser_2_addflash.app
Parent = 1
FX_Slot = 4
Slot_Flag = 0

ANL_Nickname = kavash_laser_2_addflash.emt
Parent = 1
FX_Slot = 5
Slot_Flag = 2

Slot_Order = 1, 2, 3, 5, 4

With this code i have only first effect working (all effects written in ANL).
With i use another slot_flag for second effect the whole ALE doesn’t work

Or maybe problem is in ANL? For example, impossible to use 2 same node types?

Gisteron

no, you can have even exactly identical copies of the anl nodes. you have however to look, that the names the ael refers to exist and that the nodes are valid. also, beams always are two textures, horizontal and vertical. you can’t get a 45° rotated beam.

Nova

Man, the 2nd beam is just word for example.
My trouble is in another: i can’t make two effects to work together.
They work nice separately:
First works with

ANL_Nickname = kavash_laser_2_flash.app
Parent = 1
FX_Slot = 3
Slot_Flag = 0
ANL_Nickname = kavash_laser_2_flash.emt
Parent = 1
FX_Slot = 2
Slot_Flag = 1
Slot_Order = 1, 2, 3

And the second with

ANL_Nickname = kavash_laser_2_addflash.app
Parent = 1
FX_Slot = 4
Slot_Flag = 0
ANL_Nickname = kavash_laser_2_addflash.emt
Parent = 1
FX_Slot = 5
Slot_Flag = 1
Slot_Order = 1, 5, 4

of course.
But how to make them launching together?

Gisteron

ANL_Nickname = Main_Node ; 0xEE223B51 3995220817
Parent = NULL
FX_Slot = 1
Slot_Flag = 0

ANL_Nickname = kavash_laser_2_flash.app
Parent = 1
FX_Slot = 3
Slot_Flag = 0

ANL_Nickname = kavash_laser_2_flash.emt
Parent = 1
FX_Slot = 2
[b]Slot_Flag = 1[/b]

ANL_Nickname = kavash_laser_2_addflash.app
Parent = 1
FX_Slot = 4
Slot_Flag = 0

ANL_Nickname = kavash_laser_2_addflash.emt
Parent = 1
FX_Slot = 5
Slot_Flag = 2

Slot_Order = 1, 2, 3, 5, 4

the slot flag of the third block is invalid. it needs to be 0. only the last one (that is not the main node) has a slot flag that calls the count of the emitters and fields.

Nova

Amazing, thanks, it works now

Nova

Thanks again, it really improved my lazZZzZzer
I overlayed 4 effects: 2 beams (one on one with different textures and colours, to increase contrast), sparks, flash.
Looks cute!
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/1283/76469613.jpg

But i still have a trouble which i can’t fix without help. I think this is just one parameter setting.
To FriendlyFire:
In your video the beam is constant. I mean, the beam of next shot comes before previous beam dies (yes?); but my beam dies and starts again when i refire, so the laser blinks. How to fix?

FriendlyFire

There’s no real way to fix that, apart from making absolutely no “fade-in”, that is the beam has its final appearance as soon as it is fired. I did that by just raising the emitting rate to an absurdly high value and similarly lowered the displacement time to an absurdly low value, making the beam “instant” so to speak.

Nova

In “emitting rate” you mean Emitter_Frequency, and “dicplacement time” is…?

Why485

Yes by emit rate he means the frequency. By the “displacement time” he means how long the particles last. I think the ALEs refer to that as lifetime.

The way to get the effect you’re looking for is with high frequency and short lifespan.

FriendlyFire

I also moved the emitter quickly using a Node_Transform animation, but I think Pressure on a ConeEmitter should do the trick too…

Nova

Thanks, i’ll try.

Any ideas how to create such flash effect?
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2834/x2screen41.jpg
Wave-gun

FriendlyFire

Take advantage of BasicApp_HToVAspect with a good texture (sarma would work, but a custom one would be best).

Nova

My final version of lasers in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNa-DIELook

Freestalker.fr

Hey! your lasers are material! Cool! but not realistic… a laser is a light buffer and it can’t be a visible material, it staies a light! but you made all of you want!

TheDvDMan

Nova wrote:
My final version of lasers in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNa-DIELook

Great job!

Any ideas how to create such flash effect?
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2834/x2screen41.jpg
Wave-gun

Simple: Keep on the good job!