FLServer and the future
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That’s exactly what I expected, it was no mistake, I was deliberately pushing buttons. Linux users are the computer worlds equivalent of a religious fanatic, all singing quotes from the same hymn sheet.
Oh, and fanatic Windows users are better, eh?
Also, most Linux users HAVE used Windows before or still do. The same can’t be said about Windows users. So the Linux users know at least about what they are talking.
Have YOU tried out Linux?
I suspect no, and so you don’t know such much about the system, or do you?
I am also at Windows XP for the last weeks since FL & Gothic I doesn’t work such well with my graphics cards driver at Linux. Oh, wouldn’t a fanatic deny to his death to use Windows?Sure the words come out in a different order sometimes but the message is always the same. Bottom line, it doesn’t matter what linux users think about linux, it’s not a commercial interest. Did the ice just get even thinner? Go for it man.
WRONG. Linux is definitivly commercial in some ways. They are firms out there, like Fedora or RedHat, which sell their Linux distributions for money to other firms.
Did you even read that blog entry from wolfire? Linux users DID pay more on an average basis than Windows users did. They aren’t taking things only if they are free.PS: If you are willing to try out Linux I am willing to give you some assistance, you don’t even need to install anything if you just want to try it out (you can start it from the CD for testing purposes).
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Brilliant! C’mon man, how easy was that? I was clearly baiting you and still you had to bite. I give you a few reasons why there’s no commercial interest in making games for linux and you go off on some crazy tangent like all linux users do as to why linux and it’s users are great, it makes no difference, it’s still not a commercial interest for investors.
For heavens sake, is it not open source? Totally at odds with any commercial interest by it’s very nature, the people involved and it’s users fight each other as much as they fight everyone else that doesn’t adopt their model. That’s what I mean by fanatical, you’ve just tried to convert me too, you’re all nuts!
Business is business, it’s ruthless, targets, deadlines, efficiency, productivity, differentiate or die. Everything would be worthless if the business world just burnt all their patents and copyrights then uploaded all of their concepts to the net.
Open source is more like democracy, debate everything, debate some more, argue a little, disagree about everything because everybody wants something a little different, it might work sometimes but bloody hell you need a truck load of paracetomol and a few decades to get there.
Your turn you crazy lunatic.
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Brilliant! C’mon man, how easy was that? I was clearly baiting you and still you had to bite. I give you a few reasons why there’s no commercial interest in making games for linux and you go off on some crazy tangent like all linux users do as to why linux and it’s users are great, it makes no difference, it’s still not a commercial interest for investors.
I didn’t knew you were asking for games only.
For heavens sake, is it not open source? Totally at odds with any commercial interest by it’s very nature, the people involved and it’s users fight each other as much as they fight everyone else that doesn’t adopt their model. That’s what I mean by fanatical, you’ve just tried to convert me too, you’re all nuts!
I am not sure if the commercial Linux distributions like Fedora and RedHat enterprise are open source but I suspect they aren’t.
There is definitivly a lot of money made with free/open-source software (Those two distros above are based of open-source code).I invited you so you could get a different point of view. Don’t make me to a fanatic because I am friendly.
If I sounded in any way offensive to you in this or my prior posts, I honestly apogolize for that, it wasn’t meant that way.
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Don’t be daft, I’m only having a bit of fun here, just pulling your leg that’s all. It’s one of those topics where you know your guaranteed to piss somebody off. :lol:
P.S - windows users are fanatical too, but rather than defend the platform they constantly complain about how crap it is, but when you pay for something you expect it to work! Right?
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Timmy51m wrote:
Brilliant! C’mon man, how easy was that? I was clearly baiting you and still you had to bite. I give you a few reasons why there’s no commercial interest in making games for linux and you go off on some crazy tangent like all linux users do as to why linux and it’s users are great, it makes no difference, it’s still not a commercial interest for investors.For heavens sake, is it not open source? Totally at odds with any commercial interest by it’s very nature, the people involved and it’s users fight each other as much as they fight everyone else that doesn’t adopt their model. That’s what I mean by fanatical, you’ve just tried to convert me too, you’re all nuts!
Business is business, it’s ruthless, targets, deadlines, efficiency, productivity, differentiate or die. Everything would be worthless if the business world just burnt all their patents and copyrights then uploaded all of their concepts to the net.
Open source is more like democracy, debate everything, debate some more, argue a little, disagree about everything because everybody wants something a little different, it might work sometimes but bloody hell you need a truck load of paracetomol and a few decades to get there.
Your turn you crazy lunatic.
Making fallacious comments about how utilising free software implies that all Linux users are thieves to make some non existent point that is at best tangental to the underlying topic isn’t something I’d personally go around trumpeting as being entertainment for you at the expense of someone else.
This thread was sinking into the ridiculous…
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Can’t we have any fun around here Chips? Talk about boring, if everyone around here is supposed to act so serous all the time it’s no wonder there’s always so many arguments and fallings out. Two people having a laugh and you try to turn it into a problem. Maybe you have a seriously big wooden spoon and you like to stir with it, by that you know what I’m referring to, is that your idea of fun?
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Timmy51m wrote:
Can’t we have any fun around here Chips? Talk about boring, if everyone around here is supposed to act so serous all the time it’s no wonder there’s always so many arguments and fallings out. Two people having a laugh and you try to turn it into a problem. Maybe you have a seriously big wooden spoon and you like to stir with it, by that you know what I’m referring to, is that your idea of fun?ignores
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Timmy: That wasn’t the point, the point was that the thread is originally about the problems caused by IPv4 addresses running out, and it somehow ended up into a Linux flamebait thread.
Let me tell you something:
Every fanboy out there is the same as a religious freak. In the graphics card market I’ve seen pretty retarded remarks from both nVIDIA fanboys and ATi fanboys, in the graphics API market I always see people arguing about DX vs OGL and never actually come up with reasoning behind their arguments. In the console market I see the stupidest comments on earth about the different consoles, except from Apple fanboys maybe.
What you all should know:
Fanboy/girlism is free advertising for corporations, its what they want. Arguing about Windoze vs Mac is pointless as its all up to what you use the OS for, and only gives the two most monopolistic software giants out there free publicity.
This thread wasn’t supposed to be a thread about what attitude the average Linux user has, it wasn’t supposed to be an OGL vs DX thread, it wasn’t supposed to be a flamebait thread, and it certainly never meant to be another Windoze vs Linux thread. It was supposed to be about, as I said earlier in this post; about the future of FL and the “collapse” of IPv4.
Now, on what you said about corporations not wanting to release on Linux because it has to be open source is not true. Final, no more arguing, you can release closed source on Linux and thats a fact, its not illegal and you won’t be sued.
Now, we’re done with that, lets get back on topic.
TL;DR
IPv4 is running out of addresses, will be obsolete soon and not used at all, FL doesn’t like.
Wat do?
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It has become apparent to me that the directplay libraries are the main problem with IPv6 support. It should be fairly straight forward to replace the directplay stuff in Freelancer and FLServer with a new library. I can’t promise to look at this but I am thinking about it.
EDIT: Also, this senior member thing - is this talking about old people?
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“IPv4 is running out of addresses, will be obsolete soon and not used at all, FL doesn’t like.”
forgive me if i know nothing about ip thingy 4 or 6 or whatever
and slap me sideways with a wet fish if i sound stupidbut cant addresses that are not being used be deleted to make space
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Might the topic be devided by an admin? ^
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how about some app interface that will handle it i bet they release some sort of converter that will cover from ipv4 to ipv6
if you think about it its basicly a transport protacall
as long as the packets get converted and coverted back it should be fineim sort of think of some thing like hamatchi
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Indeed, I’d assume when the day comes the majority converts to IPv6, either there will be a compatability solution for IPv6 applications or there is a way to make the Directplay protocol use IPv6.
I mean, you can already see IPv6 addresses in the FL server browser…
