Mod stolen, what can be done? // Mod geklaut, was tun?

Dias

i pay you and i have the server files, the mod will be gonna upload in server. End of talk have a nice day

cheeseontoast

sigh

Lunar_Eclipse

@Dias:

i pay you and i have the server files, the mod will be gonna upload in server. End of talk have a nice day

Whatever, there’s obviously no talking to you about this.

FR

Lets try 2 collect the facts:

Mar. 26, 2007 - the rogueuniverse mod ist handed over 2 “Scoundrel”
the by Lunar_Eclipse provided email shows the nick “Krull” [email protected]- Oct./Nov. 2007 - Dias asks [email protected]4 a permission 2 use ships
Nov. 15, 2007 - Dias payed a 100 $ 2 Lunar_Eclipse [email protected]for what ever - atleast the ships seem to be “sold”
@Lunar_Eclipse:

……
Have I not also stated that I am a noob to modding FL which would happen to include handling FL files. When I spoke to you about selling you the rights to our ships, you told me that you required both server and client files. I had only owned RU for a short time at this point …

And btw - anyone interested in the domain:
http://whois.domaintools.com/rogueuniverse.com
http://www.afternic.com/name.php?domain=rogueuniverse.com

@F!R:

…. maybe 2 much role play

refering to the
Ferengie Rules of Aquisition
Take rule #1 and replace money with model.

joking off -
……

… here we have to replace money with mod./[email protected]/[email protected]/[email protected]

black_caeser

@Dias: We would like to hear your opinion as well: http://www.forum.station-network.de/thread.php?postid=255145#post255145
Pouting isn’t really an option for you. I’m quite positive we would successfully enforce a boycott against servers running “your” (another controverse) mod if you would be found guilty. Not that I think that this is necessarily the case but the other party has a clear advantage if the main person from your party isn’t present.

Our (Station-Network’s) proposal is to hold a tribunal with a jury which is elected by the Freelancer community, consisting of well-known but for all that neutral modders like w0dk4, OP-R8R, Louva Deus, etc.

The condition for a tribunal is an adequate interest by the community else chosen consequence wont have neither an prevention effect for the future nor the support of the community.

Mindhunter

DIAS what u mean with server file?
Just the mod files or the server tools aswell?
Since i know that Lunar was running the server with a special tool he must have given it to u.

I know lunar has some bad attitudes sometimes, but i can not believe that he’s that silly and starts such a threat when he has sold the mod to u!

FR

@Lunar_Eclipse:

…
…
Have I not also stated that I am a noob to modding FL which would happen to include handling FL files. When I spoke to you about selling you the rights to our ships, you told me that you required both server and client files. I had only owned RU for a short time at this point and you told me that you would need those files. At that point I told you that I would send you those files but that you were to ONLY use the ships. So don’t act like your Mr. Innocent in this, especially when you know as well as I do what happened between us.
……

Besides the “who is the ‘legal’ owner” and “is Dias allowed 2 run the mod”

m i the only one, who think it is a bit strange,
when someone “sells” ships from a mod
especially before that

background,

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Okay according to Luna, he authorized the use of his ships, NOT the mod, until Dias comes here, the ad has been removed.

We will give every opportunity to let Dias disclose what he has done, and what he hasn’t done. If he needs an interpreter, I’m sure someone here can help.

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According to the pm I got from Luna, he has found evidence that he DID sell the mod to Dias, therefore this topic remains open and this issue has been solved.

Thanks to all involved.

black_caeser

See here for a picture of the according correspondency.

Grey_Wolf

Seems this image verifying he sold the MOD has vanished from Photobucket. I don’t know what to say on this entire debacle, people have stepped up to help only to have this ending.

Sadly, The only thing this has proven is that MOD makers have more to worry about now than the few syntax errors that may have slipped by. The question always has been how far do you really trust the playtesters. Now, tell me that next time one of you suggest asking for Paypal donations some of this discussion will not pop back into your memory…

zaxx kredda

hmmmm, it always did annoy me how theres always one around thats trying to get an angle. i get that here in my town a lot. gets to the point where you are pre-emptively rude to people.

black_caeser

@Grey:

Seems this image verifying he sold the MOD has vanished from Photobucket.

I restored the picture now.

Wicked_Witch

@Grey:

The question always has been how far do you really trust the playtesters.Â

Hmm, not only playtesters.

If a modder has a chance, run your own testserver. On that way you can avoid this kind of problems.
Specially when people get mad they do strange things.
And it’s than always to hurt. Some don’t know that they make a fool of him/her self.
And with one stupid action the respect is gonne forever.

Dias

@Wicked_Witch:

@Grey:

The question always has been how far do you really trust the playtesters.

Hmm, not only playtesters.

If a modder has a chance, run your own testserver. On that way you can avoid this kind of problems.
Specially when people get mad they do strange things.
And it’s than always to hurt. Some don’t know that they make a fool of him/her self.
And with one stupid action the respect is gonne forever.

This what you say is for who please?

FR

@F!R:

@Gibbon:

… i really, really smell a rat. …

YEP.
…

… and if you smell fish or rat,
get your own copy:

*edited my post above and restored pic.

Wicked_Witch

@Dias:

This what you say is for who please?

Are you the only one in the world maybe? The only modder? The only serverhost?
Does there stand a name?
Maybe i just gave a free tip to nobody special, only for the modders who need to test the mod.

Who the shoe fits, wear him

HunterKiller

Well, as of now, I can no longer access the “Colonial Wars Server” and it is now called something else. It still shows up on my server lists as visited. It’s called: “Coalition Wars Beta” I think? At one time on my list is read ,“-=[Coalition Wars]=-” then to the above? I had several characters there but to log on, I have to change mods.

The IP is: 81.19.209.203:2302

It seems that there should be a way to block it from showing up on the Most Active Servers List somehow so players can’t see it and want to join. I know I haven’t been there and I have all servers not played Xd out when I start Freelancer so I don’t have to wait for them all to appear.

I’m running a Discovery Server and to keep an eye on it, I don’t want to have to keep doing reinstalls for a different modded variation of it. If I go to a different type mod, I go back to the Vanilla servers that don’t require more than a simple deactivation of Discovery and just omit using the FLMM to connect. All’s fine and dandy from there. Playing “FlyByUs” or “Void” or something to get back to the basics.

Every since I had a player (Dias?) join my server and try to talk me into running this unnamed mod, I have had a lots of problems with the server staying up and on the servers list. In the same week of May, (Dias?) I think kept returning to try to hack it and had been using that mining cheat to crash it. At one instance, the player tried to cahs 24 - 100million credit cards and Ioncross caught it and announced that it wanted to kill him and ban him from the server.

Since that time, I hardly have had any players other than the ones that have been with me for the longest. Now, they have shied away because of the instabilty of it.

Since the Discovery mod s so popular, I’m just thinking of not running it anymore and trying to find a different mod to run, serverside. I’m no modder myself and want to keep running a server because I enjoy doing so.

I really like the Tekagis Treasure mod and would like to be able to run it more as a passworded server than a public one because I’m not able to connect to thier server for some reason or another? I’ve never been able from the getgo way back when and I and like to interact with others and not just play SP all the time. I’ve countless hours on SP from the beginning of it up until 5.33 then just decided to run the Discovery mod back in March 2007 last year.

Oh well, can’t always get what cha want. I’m just a Freelancer, battling my way to the top of the servers list no matter the twists and turns I’ve had in the process. I run in the 20s and 30s for a long time and now . D
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near the bottom. ;D

Anyways, I’ve had to use a different port now to get my sever to stay on the list for players to connect? 2302 just doesn’t list it anymore or not that I can see?

Hopefully, someone will find a way to stop him from running a server and ruining servers for those that just want ot have fun.

HK

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This is one dude that really needs to be silenced. I suggest his IP be published so we can ALL ban him as if he comes near my server i’ll simply end up blocking the whole of Greece which is where this idiot is from

Grey_Wolf

Its another of my Grandfathers “Life is like a fish pond” analogy’s.

In this one, Our pond is growing smaller. So the nastier Fish are being noticed much more often than before.

I’d say it’s time to stop the Catch and Release, and instead toss some to the barn yard cats… ;D