Help please.

Dark_Angel

Whenever I try to go from the “new character” Screen to try and get into the server,
The server will crash,
The server log throws out NOTHING,
and FLspit throws out:
WARNING:General: DA SYSTEM: trailing references
Anyone have any ideas what the hell this means?
Thanks
~Dark_Angel

FR

Give Lancer Solurus error checker a chance.

Maybe
–- the base (base / rooms?), your new char starts at or
(can you get at that base with an old char?)
— the ship + equipment it gets.
(can you buy that ship with an old char?)

LancerSolurus

**This was found years ago on the old TLR, the trailing reference error is simply a space character at the end of one of your INI entries. It won’t cause a crash.

I would suggest you make sure all of your encounters are there, that is usually the cause of a login crash. You could also move yourself to another system to verify that is what is causing it.**

Dark_Angel

Ok thanks I’ll give it ago,
But there were no encounters in the system.

Dark_Angel

Ok I got this from FLspit:
[22/07/2008 21:33:12]
WARNING:General:set_gamma_function() called outside of create_buffers/destroy_buffers
WARNING: Failed to get start location
WARNING: get_base(0XA7303E0D) failed.
WARNING:General: DA SYSTEM: trailing references
WARNING:General: DA SYSTEM: trailing references

Now many of you are going to say “haha no starting location!”,
Advice, shush there is a starting location this is from mpnewcharacter.fl:
Player]
name = %%NAME%%
;initial_rep = %%FACTION%%
rank = 0

money = 50000000
;voice = %%VOICE%%
;All must be Trent!
voice = trent_voice

costume = %%BASE_COSTUME%%
com_costume = %%COMM_COSTUME%%

system = NE01
base = NE01_01_Base

Now when I don’t put _base after the Ne01_01 it gets annoyed at me and tells me there is no starting location in the console, however when I put _base after it, nothing comes up in the console, and I am pretty sure that the base is correct, however if you want a look at it:
From universe.ini

[Base]
nickname = NE01_01_Base
system = NE01
strid_name = 196766
file = Universe\Systems\NE01\Bases\NE01_01_Base.ini
BGCS_base_run_by = W02bF35

From the Ne01.ini file :
[SystemInfo]
space_color = 0, 0, 0
local_faction = li_n_grp

[TexturePanels]
file = universe\heavens\shapes.ini

[Music]
space = music_br_space
danger = music_br_danger
battle = music_br_battle

[Dust]
spacedust = Dust

[Asteroids]
file = solar\asteroids\NE01_startingfield_01.ini
zone = Zone_NE01_startingfield_01

[Ambient]
color = 60, 20, 10

[Background]
basic_stars = solar\starsphere\FLBD_01.cmp
complex_stars = solar\starsphere\FLBD_02.cmp
nebulae = solar\starsphere\FLBD_03.cmp

[lightSource]
nickname = NE01_system_light
pos = 0, 0, 0
color = 253, 230, 180
range = 640000
type = DIRECTIONAL
atten_curve = DYNAMIC_DIRECTION

[zone]
nickname = NE01_Sun1_death
pos = 489195, 0, -521072
shape = SPHERE
size = 500000
damage = 1000000
sort = 99.500000
density = 0
relief_time = 0

[Object]
nickname = NE01_Sun1
ids_name = 4
pos = 489195, 0, -521072
ambient_color = 255, 255, 255
archetype = sun_2000
star = lg_white_sun
atmosphere_range = 250000
burn_color = 255, 255, 255
ids_info = 66162

[Object]
nickname = NE01_planet_1
ids_name = 589826
spin = 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000
rotate = 0, 0, 0
pos = -321226, 0, 1226
archetype = planet_earthcity_20000
atmosphere_range = 35000
burn_color = 255, 222, 160
ids_info = 66069
ring = Zone_NE01_planet_1_ring, solar\rings\ross.ini

[zone]
nickname = NE01_planet_1_death
pos = -321226, 0, 1226
shape = SPHERE
size = 34000
damage = 50000
sort = 99.500000
density = 0
relief_time = 0

[zone]
nickname = Zone_NE01_planet_1_ring
pos = -321226, 0, 1226
rotate = 0, 0, 0
shape = ring
size = 50000, 2000, 2000
sort = 0.000000

[Object]
nickname = Ne01_01
ids_name = 196717
pos = -256245, 0, 1226
archetype = Dock_buoy
ids_info = 65867
dock_with = Ne01_01_Base
base = Ne01_01_Base
reputation = li_n_grp
behavior = NOTHING
voice = atc_leg_m01
space_costume = li_captain_head, pl_male1_peasant_body
difficulty_level = 15
loadout = dock_buoy
pilot = pilot_solar_hard

[Zone]
nickname = Zone_NE01_startingfield_01
ids_name = 589827
pos = -319999, 0, 199846
rotate = 0, 28, 0
shape = ELLIPSOID
size = 425440, 77241, 77241
property_flags = 130
ids_info = 0
visit = 36
spacedust = asteroiddust
spacedust_maxparticles = 50
sort = 20
toughness = 6
density = 5
repop_time = 20
max_battle_size = 4
pop_type = nonlootable_ast_field
relief_time = 35

[Object]
nickname = NE01_Trade_Lane_Ring_01
reputation = li_n_grp
pos = -236628, 0, 0
rotate = 0, -124, 0
archetype = Trade_Lane_Ring
ids_name = 4
ids_info = 66170
tradelane_space_name = 589826
behavior = NOTHING
difficulty_level = 1
loadout = trade_lane_ring_br_01
pilot = pilot_solar_easiest
next_ring = NE01_Trade_Lane_Ring_02

[Object]
nickname = NE01_Trade_Lane_Ring_02
reputation = li_n_grp
pos = 1226, 0, 160613
rotate = 0, -124, 0
archetype = Trade_Lane_Ring
ids_name = 4
ids_info = 66170
tradelane_space_name = 589828
behavior = NOTHING
difficulty_level = 1
loadout = trade_lane_ring_br_01
pilot = pilot_solar_easiest
prev_ring = NE01_Trade_Lane_Ring_01

[Object]
nickname = NE01_Trade_Lane_Ring_03
reputation = li_n_grp
pos = -246436, 0, -13486
rotate = 0, -1, 0
archetype = Trade_Lane_Ring
ids_name = 4
ids_info = 66170
tradelane_space_name = 589826
behavior = NOTHING
difficulty_level = 1
loadout = trade_lane_ring_br_01
pilot = pilot_solar_easiest
next_ring = NE01_Trade_Lane_Ring_04

[Object]
nickname = NE01_Trade_Lane_Ring_04
reputation = li_n_grp
pos = -240306, 0, -290574
rotate = 0, -1, 0
archetype = Trade_Lane_Ring
ids_name = 4
ids_info = 66170
tradelane_space_name = 589829
behavior = NOTHING
difficulty_level = 1
loadout = trade_lane_ring_br_01
pilot = pilot_solar_easiest
prev_ring = NE01_Trade_Lane_Ring_03

From NE01_01_Base.ini
[BaseInfo]
nickname = Ne01_01_Base
start_room = Deck

[Room]
nickname = Bar
file = Universe\Systems\Ne01\Bases\Rooms\Ne01_01_Bar.ini

[Room]
nickname = Deck
file = Universe\Systems\Ne01\Bases\Rooms\Ne01_01_Deck.ini

NE01_01_Bar.ini :

[Room_Info]
set_script = scripts\bases\cv_01_Bar_hardpoint_01.thn
scene = ambient, scripts\bases\cv_01_bar_ambi_Ew01_01.thn
scene = ambient, scripts\bases\Ambi_Terrain_Static_D01.thn
scene = ambient, scripts\bases\Ambi_Terrain_Dynamic.thn

[Room_Sound]
music = music_bar_generic07
ambient = ambience_deck_space_smaller

[CharacterPlacement]
name = Zg/PC/Player/01/A/Stand
start_script = Scripts\Bases\cv_01_bar_enter_01.thn

[Camera]
name = Camera_0

[Hotspot]
name = IDS_HOTSPOT_DECK
behavior = ExitDoor
room_switch = Deck

[Hotspot]
name = IDS_HOTSPOT_BAR
behavior = ExitDoor
room_switch = Bar

[Hotspot]
name = IDS_HOTSPOT_COMMODITYTRADER_ROOM
behavior = ExitDoor
room_switch = Deck
set_virtual_room = Trader

[Hotspot]
name = IDS_HOTSPOT_EQUIPMENTDEALER_ROOM
behavior = ExitDoor
room_switch = Deck
set_virtual_room = Equipment

[Hotspot]
name = IDS_HOTSPOT_NEWSVENDOR
behavior = NewsVendor

[Hotspot]
name = IDS_HOTSPOT_MISSIONVENDOR
behavior = MissionVendor

from NE01_01_Deck.ini:
[Room_Info]
set_script = Scripts\Bases\br_07_Deck_hardpoint_01.thn
scene = all, ambient, Scripts\Bases\br_07_Deck_ambi_int_01.thn
animation = Sc_loop

[Room_Sound]
ambient = ambience_deck_space_larger

[PlayerShipPlacement]
name = X/Shipcentre/01

[Camera]
name = Camera_0

[Hotspot]
name = IDS_HOTSPOT_DECK
behavior = ExitDoor
room_switch = Deck

[Hotspot]
name = IDS_HOTSPOT_BAR
behavior = ExitDoor
room_switch = Bar

[Hotspot]
name = IDS_HOTSPOT_COMMODITYTRADER_ROOM
behavior = VirtualRoom
room_switch = Trader

[Hotspot]
name = IDS_HOTSPOT_EQUIPMENTDEALER_ROOM
behavior = VirtualRoom
room_switch = Equipment

[Hotspot]
name = IDS_NN_REPAIR_YOUR_SHIP
behavior = Repair
virtual_room = Deck

[Hotspot]
name = IDS_DEALER_FRONT_DESK
behavior = FrontDesk
state_read = 1
state_send = 2
virtual_room = Trader

[Hotspot]
name = IDS_HOTSPOT_COMMODITYTRADER
behavior = StartDealer
state_read = 2
state_send = 1
virtual_room = Trader

[Hotspot]
name = IDS_DEALER_FRONT_DESK
behavior = FrontDesk
state_read = 1
state_send = 2
virtual_room = Equipment

[Hotspot]
name = IDS_HOTSPOT_EQUIPMENTDEALER
behavior = StartEquipDealer
state_read = 2
state_send = 1
virtual_room = Equipment

[Hotspot]
name = IDS_EQUIPMENT_ROOM_RIGHT
behavior = MoveRight
state_read = 2
state_send = 1
virtual_room = Equipment

[Hotspot]
name = IDS_NN_REPAIR_YOUR_SHIP
behavior = Repair
virtual_room = Equipment

The base which the system.ini is referring too from solararch.ini :
[Solar]
nickname = Dock_buoy
ids_name = 261162
ids_info = 261162
type = STATION
DA_archetype = Solar\Dockable\Dock_buoy.3db
material_library = solar\Solar_mat_misc02.mat
LODranges = 0, 5000, 500000
mass = 10000.000000
loadout = Dock_buoy
solar_radius = 7000
shape_name = NNM_SM_NAVBUOY
hit_pts = 999999961690316250000000000000000000.000000
docking_sphere = berth, HpDockMountA, 3000
docking_sphere = moor_medium, HpDockMountA, 3000
docking_sphere = moor_large, HpDockMountA, 3000
docking_camera = 0
phantom_physics = true

Any help would be nice, sorry this is a lot here.

FriendlyFire

The failed to get start location is pretty common and I don’t believe it causes crashes.

WARNING: get_base(0XA7303E0D) failed.

I’d be much worried about this and would try to fix that one ASAP.

Dark_Angel

That’s the thing that is bothering me,
The only base that would refer to is the Ne01_01_base right?
Well that is all referenced correctly,
And I know it’s not an archtype because it doesn’t say,
So would the best thing to do be to do a CRC check or something like that?

FriendlyFire

Yes. Run CRCTool and check what’s that CRC about… A spelling mistake is very possible, you know

Bejaymac

0XA7303E0D = Li01_01_Base

You’ve probably goofed a market or mbases entry for Manhatten

EDIT

WARNING: Failed to get start location - Everybody gets this, load a save game it happens, play OSP it happens, play MP it happens, the only time it doesn’t happen is when you select “New Game” and go and play the story.

DwnUndr

A couple of suggestions

Did you make a loadout for it in loadouts.ini?

You referenced a base in universe.ini, but not the system for it. Is it there?

Did you build new paths? (shortest_legal_path etc)

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and, even though a few of these folks might disagree with me, I would recommend setting your start place through the newcharacter.ini rather than the mpnewcharacter.fl. I have been doing it this way for 2 years with no problems.