/v/lancer strikes again?

Nah it was just a idea, i dont want them to be banned!
Its to much fun to see how they shoot in their own feeds.

Please be wise and dont provoke, just let the thread die.

Closing threads and banning people usually doesnt really help, so just relax

This is going too far, you have all achieved the same level of idiocy.

Pack it in, children!

Banning someone simply because you don’t like what you read is being a Simpleton, with only 1 grey cell in your cerebrum!

Go wash your faces and get ready for bed!

Haven’t you worked out yet that when you keep on replying you are fuelling the fire?

THIS IS A POINTLESS AND ENDLESS DISCUSSION!

IF YOU ARE A VICTIM OF THEIR THEFT THEN IF YOU WANT TO DO SO YOU CAN SUE THEM!

DO YOU HAVE THE MONEY TO DO SO?

If “YES” then GO AHEAD, IF “NO” then FORGET IT!

JEEEEZZZ!!! How many more threads like this do you want before you understand the REAL situation? Go and read the previous ones - but STOP REPLYING TO THIS ONE, BearClaws is the same person as at least one of the others, if not all of them, you twits!

Im gonna ignore the 3 or so vultures circling above on a constant patrol for new comments to feed from… & simply ask 1 Q

what the hell is saarlancer??? the eybrow was raised a few posts ago… & sill is… sounds alot like xarlancer (wich was XLR’s “injoke” nickname)

Should i be worried?.. Drop me a PM if i should

& yeppers… Uncle ST is right, drink ye milk little kiddes & goto bed… the pillow fight was fun, but its getting late & if you don’t goto bed now… you’ll be cranky at grandma’s tomorrow… & G’ma dont give sweets to cranky children. 8-)

StarTrader wrote:
BearClaws is the same person as at least one of the others, if not all of them, you twits!

Go ahead and analyze our grammar and word choice, I’m sure you will find that we are all, in fact, separate individuals. Except for maybe two people.

Funny topic. The personality split is already a disease. To the therapist?
Systematic delusions also sickness

Bearclaws, Skeletor, and Pastawiz all browsing thread at same time
Claim that they’re samefags

What

Also when did I ever say “HURR DIS IS UNIQUE MOD”
I’ve merely said it’s better.
Hell even in our /v/ threads we admit to stealing, we get more people that way.

This post is a reply to everything Bas has said

I JUST USED PHOTOSHOP TO CREATE DEPICTIONS OF THE NEXT PLAYSTATION, XBOX, AND WII. I NOW LEGALLY OWN THE COPYRIGHTS TO ALL OF THESE PRODUCTS BECAUSE I AM AUTOMATICALLY GRANTED LEGAL COPYRIGHT STATUS THE SECOND I DRAW THEM AND NEVER HAVE TO APPLY FOR PATENTS AND COPYRIGHTS.

Now do you see how stupid and flawed your logic is? NONE of us on /v/lancer EVER claimed this was our own work. We will NEVER claim these models are ours. The community of Freelancer made this #$%%, and by god we are going to use them in a mod that doesn’t suck.

edotan: Also I would like to point out that /v/lancer never started this shitty thread. It was you guys trolling us, but we are just better at trolling.

Skeletor wrote:
Also I would like to point out that /v/lancer never started this shitty thread. It was you guys trolling us, but we are just better at trolling.

So true!

Why485 wrote:

I have to say, this is by far the most fun I’ve had on a Starport thread in awhile.

I think people really underestimate the throw that /v/ has. While they tend to work in “flavors of the month,” they can collectively produce some pretty surprising and quality things. (Pic semi-related) Honestly, you bring up Freelancer in one thread and it’s not uncommon to see a wave of “brb reinstallan,” and, “What mods are good?” There are a lot of Freelancer fans that could easily come back from that site, and the last time I checked, the FL community wasn’t getting any bigger.

/V/s problem is really a totally understandable problem. I’m not going to lie, the motivation for me doing a lot of things in FL modding revolves around “I can do a better job than that.” Most people stop at just pointing out problems, but these guys actually did something about it. While I can’t officially condone their behavior in relation the “real” FL community, you can’t ignore that they are not so different from us. They also are a rather size-able community as well. One that if their numbers were added to ours, I really would have nothing to complain about considering the dwindling numbers that FL has.

Yes, I am aware I’m defending a subset of 4chan. I love watching you all get so riled up over something that doesn’t really matter that much. Sue me.

On a side note, I said this before in the last /v/lancer thread and I’ll say it again. Everything I make/mod in Freelancer I do not hold to myself. I think it is rather selfish for anyone to even think about holding modding any information to themselves. That said, should /v/ ever like to use any of the features or effects I’ve created for FL in general, Itano Circus, and my contributions to 88 Flak (The Liberty Gunboat for example.) feel free.

(Models are a somewhat different story, but they have permissions from the modelers themselves. Or so I’ve heard.)

The only nuance I’d make, Why, is that this is all a question of attitude. Many modders will gladly share if asked politely and in a manner that seems interested in not just getting the end material, but improving upon it and working around and with it. However, they won’t react the same if the guy just picks the stuff directly without saying as much as “thank you”.

I’m very thankful that you share your things with no strings attached, but it is just as acceptable for someone to wish to keep a certain level of ownership on their things. Exclusivity can truly help a server in certain occasions and if you stop immediately thinking about selfishness, you’ll also notice that if the modder has a thriving community, he’ll pour more hours into his work which will benefit the entire community. If, however, his ideas, concepts and work are ripped from him against his will, he might just say fuck it and we’ve just lost an active and productive member of the community.

It’s really mostly just that. Modellers will happily give you permission, coders will even sometimes lend a hand, but only if asked in the good way. Antagonize them and what you get is the situation we have here. What if someone doesn’t want to give out his work? Two options: make it yourself and do it better, thus both furthering the community and getting what you want, or just look around, you’re pretty sure to find something similar if not identical.

The only nuance I’d make, Why, is that this is all a question of attitude.

Implying we started it

I’m very thankful that you share your things with no strings attached, but it is just as acceptable for someone to wish to keep a certain level of ownership on their things.

Implying we don’t give you credit

Exclusivity can truly help a server in certain occasions and if you stop immediately thinking about selfishness, you’ll also notice that if the modder has a thriving community, he’ll pour more hours into his work which will benefit the entire community. If, however, his ideas, concepts and work are ripped from him against his will, he might just say #$%% it and we’ve just lost an active and productive member of the community.

Implying loosing members isn’t the only thing you’re actively concerned about
Implying any of your members would ever actually go to /v/lancer
Well that’s only partially true, we have quite a few people who quit Discovery, but I digress.

Also, wait, /v/ made katawa shoujo? I honestly would’ve used LURK as an example for stuff we’ve done…

Ah, I forgot that arguing with you is just about useless. Twisting words is your speciality

Ah, I forgot that arguing with you is just about useless. Twisting words is your speciality

Implying I

Oh screw it, seems you can’t understand that, so I’ll put it into words you can undestand.

We’ve given you credit, as stated multiple times.

We weren’t the ones who cried OMG THIEF KILL.

None of your active players would ever go to /v/lancer, because they hate us, and given from what I’ve seen, you care more about players than anything else.

Never said you didn’t credit, but you didn’t bother with the author’s opinion: positive or negative, you took what you wanted. This is what I and many others have a gripe with and it’s well within a logical response to be a little pissed about it and to say so on our own forums. Did we go to /v/ to whine about it? No. You guys came in here to advertise your mod for reasons that I cannot find, since you explicitly say “None of your active players would ever go to /v/lancer”.

And of course I care more about players than anything else. What else should I be caring about? A community without anyone in it isn’t a community.

“None of your active players would ever go to /v/lancer”.

Talking about SWWT, not the entire FL Community,

Also I believe my predecessors actually asked for some of your materials and even help in the past, and you blew them off. I also believe you don’t actually ever offer any of your things to anyone, even when it wouldn’t affect you at all.

Also if you again, had been nicer, we might have been as well
We might still willing to negotiate some stuff, at least some of us.
Bearclaws probably wouldn’t.

FF my friend… It ain’t worth it, they live to troll… based on that fact, reason holds no meaning here… we are all going in circles (again).

Try & twist that… ye twit