[The Starport News]Acquisition of an old domain

I am sure the old domain will be put in good use and rather ease the job of many modders around the FL communities, and well for the future of FL modding also. On a side note, I am not really interested into the many differences between these “sides”, because keeping an old game like FL active even today it’s … something ! And with these separations and arguments to each others brings no good not for the several individuals but for the entire FL community around the web. And I need to be honest that I am rather new to modding as this is my first experience as a 3D Modeller, and to be new to this whole new experience is really “hurting” to see people “under the same roof” arguing about … nonsense :D.

Dave.Synk wrote:
And I need to be honest that I am rather new to modding as this is my first experience as a 3D Modeller, and to be new to this whole new experience is really “hurting” to see people “under the same roof” arguing about … nonsense :D.

Well, welcome to modelling - I can’t even model a brick There are some good basic tuts out there (admittedly old) and lots of posts regarding modelling - across many sites. I hope you find resources that are useful, but as always, just ask away if you can’t, need help - or just want to thoughts, advice, or the sound of chatter

As for the fall outs - it is mostly differences in personal opinions - how things are perceived and thought of - or jumping to conclusions about implications. Take things with a pinch of salt and form your own opinions based on evidence and you’ll be fine.

I’d just point out that here allows (within reason of taste!) anything to be discussed - which is why it often is incorrectly copping flak (in my opinion) as this evidently isn’t for everyone’s taste

Have fun

I have a question. Probably it has been answered somewhere already but when you say that you use the lancersreactor.com domain for the benefit of ALL freelancers and their communities then why is it only linking to Starport and not to ALL of them?

Or was that just a slogan?

Right now I see no way that any other Freelancer community can take a benefit from it. Why don’t you fill your statement with truth by adding links to all the Freelancer communities? Maybe this would even calm down the situation between the sites.

Did you notice the community bar at the top?

That is an explanation but no real answer.
Ok there is this community bar and I can also understand why there are no links to lancersreactor.org or swat-portal.com.

Those sites use a different community bar as they can not use yours, as from what I have understand your community bar does not fit the requirements of a site that supports more than one game. Since links on your bar are not allowed as long the other site does not host that bar itself these two communities are not allowed to join. The conclusion of that is that these communities do not even have the chance to be listed there.

Furthermore I have to ask myself why all other communities are hidden behind such a bar when Starport is able to put numerous links right at the top of the site. I also could link to all other sites by putting up a site with black fonts and black background and the only visible link would point to my own site.

I am sorry but in my eyes as long nothing changes this slogan is not true and the “cake is a lie”.

Darkstalker wrote:
That is an explanation but no real answer.
Ok there is this community bar and I can also understand why there are no links to lancersreactor.org or swat-portal.com.

Those sites use a different community bar as they can not use yours, as from what I have understand your community bar does not fit the requirements of a site that supports more than one game. Since links on your bar are not allowed as long the other site does not host that bar itself these two communities are not allowed to join. The conclusion of that is that these communities do not even have the chance to be listed there.

Furthermore I have to ask myself why all other communities are hidden behind such a bar when Starport is able to put numerous links right at the top of the site. I also could link to all other sites by putting up a site with black fonts and black background and the only visible link would point to my own site.

I am sorry but in my eyes as long nothing changes this slogan is not true and the “cake is a lie”.

Hmm, I won’t answer the points you raise - mainly as they’re already answered in the above posts (so maybe they need further clarification) - but also they’re best positioned to deal with it too. I also don’t understand your penultimate paragraph either… not sure what it is supposed to mean. However, it is nice to be able to ask questions, discuss and more about these issues

But I’ll point out one thing - regarding all community bars.

The community bars are great as long as the person has Javascript enabled. That goes for any community featuring bars. I can’t tell if Swat-portal or lancersreactor.org works without javascript, as currently they’re not even working with it - which is weird as they did before.

If javascript is deactivated on the browser, then they know nothing about other sites at all. Is there a way to output via php the links within a “no script” tag? Just a thought

edit Ah, i understand better what your last paragraph meant once “him above” answered it I must admit, I thought Op had asked directly for his sites to be removed from the community bar, but I’m old and memory fails

The bottom line to me is that there’s no reason I can fathom that should prevent anyone in the community making full use of all sites and resources available to them, especially if the reason for not doing so is a bit of drama or he said she said.

Similarly, there’s no reason for any community to block mention of or links to another, if they do that then it’s obvious to me that they don’t have the community in mind. As far as OP goes, it’s a case of “do as i say, not as i do”. Talk about the greater good of the community and then for personal reasons block any mention of a site that holds a wealth of modding information and tools, plus some very talented individuals that might just hold answers to important questions they have.

People should have the option and the common sense to explore both communities and make their own mind up, rather than relying on the opinion of others.

OK
Does your community bar support links to various games?
If the answer is no then communities such as swat-portal.com and lancersreactor.org have no other choice than using their own bar. It is not matter of their decision it is matter of their needs.

I am running a small site and a wiki for Freelancer. I am not able and not allowed to put something like that bar onto my sites. Thus eventhough I am part of the Freelancer community I can make use of any promised benefits.

The slogan should better be “All Freelancers exclusive sites which fulfill our rules and use our software instead of their own might be able to take limited benefit if someone finds the link”.
That excludes a very large part of the Freelancer community.

The cake is a lie and Freelancer sites out there are not granted the right to take benefit at all.

Darkstalker wrote:
I am running a small site and a wiki for Freelancer. I am not able and not allowed to put something like that bar onto my sites. Thus eventhough I am part of the Freelancer community I can make use of any promised benefits.

Why are you not able, or allowed, to put the community bar on your site? You say you’re not, but don’t say why? :-? I mean it doesn’t sound strict to me:

To add your own site, you must have the Freelancer Community Network bar installed on your website.
It would be nice to have the network bar on any of your pages, but only displaying it on some sort of entry page is also sufficient. Note however that the linked site should not be a placeholder to only draw visitors to your site. The linked site should be frequented by your general page visitors as well!

To benefit from the bar you must display the bar. I’m unsure why this is incredibly unfair or selective… especially when it does say:

You are obviously free to change the code to better fit in your webpage. It would also be wise to put the CSS stylesheet into the header of your website. For simplicity I put it directly next to the body code and so far it seems to work correctly with all browsers.

p.s. Unsure why Lancersreactor.org can’t show the bar. They’re not multi-game are they (technically you could argue Starlancer is a second, but how many game sites for Starlancer are there on the bar? - I can’t get their bar to work in FF or Chrome so dunno )

Being a firefox user I never realised TLR.org had a bar! I just fired up IE and there it was. How many people by percentage have chrome or FF and cant see it?

oh, and surely Starlancer sites should be listed here as well being in the same universe just a different time, just a thought.

I use Chrome and it shows up for me no problem. I second the Starlancer idea as well.

The community bar at SWAT does not show up in newer versions of FireFox or other newer browsers because i was not yet able to correct that. Thats one of the points that comes next on my list. Just to clear this issue. It shouldn’t be of any of your problems at all.

Next to that i don’t understand why you state that the .com address shall be used to offer a community for all, unbiased (sure?). Isn’t that also possible with the org. address? I can read there and i can read here - although i am not registered there. So its as open as here Saying also there is randomly some news - probable i don’t know. But wasn’t or isn’t that also the case here - I just need to scroll up a bit with a post asking “Why don’t you post news”

I mean its as lively there as here i guess. I cant really say how much there is going on - I already pointed out why.
You obtained the domain on a legal way - you can use it so. But what i don’t like is if irrelevant statements are made about each side just to put either this side or the other in foreground.

Next thing saying Continuum is TLR mod. Dunno is it? They started there as far as i know. You could also lightly say FWTOW is a TSP mod - not because its hosted here - but following back the news and considering that 3 of the active admins here are core members of the FWTOW modding team might bring that illusion also up. Well you can weight anything like you wish. Either to the benefits of someone else or for someones own interests.

Unfortunate the whole issue again made the gap between the two communities bigger. Arrr ;(

As said before, TLR.org censors us. As regards the TLR.org mod:

This community will officially support the development of a new Freelancer mod which has the apparently has the potential to become very successful. I’d like to officially welcome the members of the Alternative Universe mod project to TLR. We will sup…

And so on.

Also, Freeworlds is absolutely not the same. The services we use from The-Starport are not exclusive to us, anybody could get the same coverage and tools (news and forge repository).

Not to give any ideas, but the logical thing for OP to do now would be to get the TSP .com or .org domain and link them to TLR

Schmackbolzen wrote:
Not to give any ideas, but the logical thing for OP to do now would be to get the TSP .com or .org domain and link them to TLR

Op actually got the-starport.com (prior to us getting TLR.com) but not sure what he’s gonna do with it.