FLCN 1.0 - ARCHIVED

Uhm…

I will apologise firstly as I have not checked TLR for a week (I have been to Glastonbury ;)) so I did not recieve that PM.

It is wrong to go ahead and do this without the permission of the SP. To be honest, we were quite happy (as Admin & Staff) to include TLR. But now I think alot of people wont be so accomadating.

I will refrain from posting my opinion for the time being and await to hear from Wodk4 and some others in regards to this.

But please guys (@OP and Azza) lets keep the discussion civilised here.

Thanks,

R.

ok np and sorry again

1. your explaination does not explain why suddenly TLR is listed as link without approval
2. to take without asking is still wrong
3. mentioning that other FL sites are build based on TLR material and saying that this has something to do with copyright issiues is somewhat weird as TLR hold exactly 0 copyrights on the files (downloads) that are used on other sites
TLR has 0 exclusive rights on those files especially since they were released for public (until the original author does say something different
4. TLR still hosts a bunch of my files eventhough i requested the removal (this is another copyright issue)
5. You still seem to make unreasonable claims about me and keep ignoring all the stuff that i explained to you last week
if you have something to claim then prove your words… and then im going to prove them wrong

OPR8R ,

This is the last time I will ask politely. This is NOT the place for that discussion. If it continues, it shall be removed.

If you want to discuss issues other than the Network bar, take it to a private IRC room or TLR forums.

This thread is for the Network bar alone. No other discussions or accusations please.

Once again I thank you for your cooperation.

R

but he is allowed to make stupid claims against me while i am not allowed to defend myself right?
fine
ill shut up now
please remove the SWAT links from the bar… it looks like you want to add TLR to it no matter what they did or still do

Alright added it to my site. Link here- http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_CW_Mod_Studio/index.php?act=site

The Common Wealth Mod Studio.

just wanted to say that its a great idea. Hope you guys will add me.
-Starbuck.

Please stay cool fellows.
I m convinced, most of us share same values.
so It doesn’t make any sens, to let such stuff disturb
this realy great and prospering community.

And I m sure the admin team will handle that.

And i m also sure, most will remember my last
statements about hacking + such @ TLR.
And If anyone needs am update - just ask.

Just went back and read through all those post. Ughh. Well i know im a nobody around here. But its not going to hurt anything. IMHO, id leave the TLR out. Espesicaly after useing the bar without asking permission. So i would leave them out of the FCN. Just my opinion.

indeed this bar is a great idea and so it gets my praise for the work and idea.

and please stay calmed here Op and Azza the fact will be proved by the admins and for now the bar must be removed from tlr site. so no worry to be that repelling and let the admins remove your swat links…

think positive^^

-=]DOS[=- Decoration of Operating Soldiers

www.dosclan.plusboard.de

My opinion is: If TLR gets officialy added to the FLCN bar i want ours to be removed.

I totaly agree in most points with OP and i dont want NewUniverse to be published on this bar when TLR gets added.
The whole TLR lead has insulted me and Deadeye as nazi, gay, stupid, etc. without any offense from our side.

To make it clear: When i see a TLR link in the bar at www.cleanerbase.de ill remove the bar from our site asap.

I dont want to remove it because its a great way to get known and become new players, but this on principle.

I enjoy this site and the ideas and discussions we had have and i feel that we (or any other community) should not support TLR anymore.
They have proven theirselve more than once to be hackers and respectless towards others and their work.

Just my two cents.
Greetings
Mindhunter

@Lissy:

-=]DOS[=- Decoration of Operating Soldiers

www.dosclan.plusboard.de

Sorry, but I do not see the Community Bar on the page.
You must add the bar on the page. (I remembered that you can’t add the bar )

hi Network bar installed on www.freelancer-foren.de Freelancer Berlin200x for the name please

Sorry my fault :-[ Could you please Berlin Server in Berlin200x change

thx

gruss, Hobbes

I knew a player named Hobbes once, he flew on Jolt with LSF, you the same hobbes?

Interesting how the community bar was well recieved by the community and now TLR is involved there are clearly two camps.
One camp - those who were not affected by the hacking and want to make up and those who were directly affected by the hacking for a sustained period and do not see a solution in adding tlr to the bar.

Those who did not get hacked for months on end, need to accept that they really have no idea what everyone else went through. The reason they were hacked was because of torch and because Azza and Knife wanted torch removed from the tlr staff. How ironic that these two people now in essence run TLR.

My next point is this.
This TLR thing is a festering wound for many well respected server owners in the FL community and therefore we either ALL make up and let bygones be bygones or the split will continue for years.

Whilst you may want to seperate the hacking problems as not relevent, they are. Having a “community toolbar” and not dealing with the hacking issues will not work. They are related im afraid and will run the risk of defragmenting the FL community further.

Therefore, my only suggestion in this matter is to have Azza and Knife decide what they want to do and say. Then have the server owners who were hacked constantly for the november, december and january period have there say. If Azza and knife dont want to say anything, then you have the answer and know what the other server ops will say about TLR being on the toolbar.

OP has said what he said out of emotion, however, you should know that those servers who were attacked for 3 mths probably have the same sentiments as OP. Currently OP is isolated because he’s (allegedly) currently getting threatened or has been attacked by Azza and so far nobody else (high profile) has been.
When the void was attacked by Azza and Knife the community didnt care because they were not being attacked, jolt > nobody cared, the server list goes on and still the community didnt care.

So, either its a community or it isnt.

TLR arent on the bar, they forged thier own, so lets stop this talking of the past NOW.

(any posts about it after this are just gunna get deleted, last thing we need is the past comming back okay? :()

I think I’m speaking for the majority by deciding that The Lancers Reactor will not be included in the Network Bar. If you have any problem with that decision, please PM me or another member of the Staff.

Any further discussion on this matter will be immediately removed without warning. This thread is about the Community Network Bar and not TLR.

I thank TLR for removing the bar.

Thank you and please remember to keep the tone appropriate,
FriendlyFire

TLR arent on the bar, they forged thier own, so lets stop this talking of the past NOW.

(any posts about it after this are just gunna get deleted, last thing we need is the past comming back okay? )

Thanks for the threat, I’ll ensure my opinion is expressed in a manner that is seen as acceptable by the moderators and admins next time.