New Renderer (OpenGL 3.3)

Yeah, that’s introduced some different lighting issues now hasn’t it, faces on the tanks are lit incorrectly with the bottom triangle of the face showing highlights and the top not, and large parts of the base showing highlights which should be in shadow at times. You’ve got your work cut out with this fella! Keep at it and you’ll crack it eventually I’m sure.

Schmackbolzen wrote:
I can, but I am not sure what you want to see there? You’ll get me flying wild behind some ships

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I do not want to see - i want to feel and compare with vanilla
It is because when player going to complete missions - he is blind usually about game details. If he feels comfortable in this moment - then success

Not talking about that stripe, are we watching the same video? I’m sure you can see far better than I can in a video though.

Just had to step in to say that your work is awesome. Keep it up mate. I hope once you release the final version, other modders will work on it to improve it even further (if the renderer is capable of that, ofcourse). I wish you best of luck for your project. I hope we end up with graphics of FW:TOW but for vanilla. FF, wodk4, sizer and adoxa are helping you in it. That is how the FL community should be instead of modders having indifference and hostilities between them.

Yeah, I was about to say, the biggest problem is that most of FL’s stuff aged poorly. The style was never great to begin with, but it doesn’t fare well when you try to upres it. You’d need to redesign it entirely with FL’s original style being more a spirit than anything else.

Also, you haven’t even broached planets yet, which are a completely different game. You can’t have modern looking models with FL’s crummy planets.

Not indifference between you and the FW:TOW team. I am talking about indifferences between other modders.

Anyway, I can help (I don’t know 3d modelling and texturing (though i am learning it, which is hard)). If there are is any misc work you can tell me and I am sure there isn’t a scarcity of talented people on the forums.

Nice video. Keep up the work man. Enjoying it.

Your last video was great, but left me with a few questions. Does it affect everything globally? i.e. asteroids, planets, etc. (the shadowing) Looks like you could do god rays if so. Have you imported anything with bump maps and spec maps? If so, how does it read them, meaning from the texture file. Did you have to make a different node for them in the mat file? How many light sources is the bump map affected by? Last, in the video at 0:05 when you dimmed it all the way down, can that been done just to the side facing away from the the light source, giving a realistic light effect? Just so only light maps are seen, not the stations textures.

FL’s limited by D3D8’s own 8 lights cap, so it should never go beyond that. You can add dynamic lights to stuff but FL’s buggy about that (w0d swore at it for months because of it).

Cool beans, but what I meant was does the shadowing affect everything? Like if your in front of a planet, asteroid, other ships, jump gate, etc.

And what I meant by directional lighting was this:

I’m guessing there is some kind of atmospheric lighting causing everything in system to be lit up on all sides, like this: (picture is big, so I linked it)

http://indus3.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/No-fog-vs-atmospheric-light-scattering.jpg

This was a good read, don’t know if you would be interested:

http://indus3.org/atmospheric-effects-in-games/#.V_pxgfkrKM8

Does opengl allow you to bypass the 8 light limit cap as Friendlyfire said that there is? How taxing is opengl on the game engine? i.e. stuttering, fps, etc? As for post processing, what kind of impact will that apply to the engine. From what I have seen in newer games it lowers the fps i.e. Guild Wars 2. With it on, it lowers fps, off the fps increase. Granted GW2 is poorly opitmized.

On a different note, does anyone else get this message when they try to make a post:

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1. The light cap was caused by the fixed-function pipeline, so the programmable shader pipeline Schmack uses doesn’t have that restriction. The game should attempt feeding the extra lights even if it couldn’t technically render them - you could see that in vanilla by attaching a bunch of lights to stuff, they’d flicker in and out because they’d get sent in a different order and D3D8 would stop at the 8th.

Only thing I’m not sure is if it caps the static LightSource lights to 8, since I’ve never had 8 such entries at once.

2. Post-processing is very lightweight. Anything you add will incur a cost in terms of performance, but that’s not where the big drain is.

3. You get that error message when you take too long to post.

EDIT: And to address your previous post (which btw, you should try to avoid double-posting, just edit the first post instead):

1. Unless Shmack did something weird (and I don’t see why he would’ve), all objects should be affected equally, so going behind a planet will block light, and objects in front of a planet will cast shadows onto the surface.

2. Directional lighting is like the most primitive thing you can have, so it’s pretty obviously going to be in. Now, since FL’s systems have an odd scale, you typically want to use a point light to represent the sun rather than a directional light (the parallel ray assumption doesn’t hold anymore).

3. The image you linked has what’s called participating media, i.e. fog. That’ll soften the scene and illuminate everything. It’s not particularly realistic to have that in space though, outside of nebulae.

It looks more classic. Love it
How about performance?