Sirius The real facts
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Hey if anyone is thinking “Sirius…been there done that.” And wants starcharts of other constellations ( got them all ) just drop me a msg in my inbox. Don’t get lazy and post it just send me a message like “send me Orion”.
Astronomy joke. You point out the stars in Orion “… shoulders are betegeuse and bellatrix feet are saiph and rigel…” Then name the ones in the belt then ask them, “See that smudge under his belt?” When they say yes tell them “His fly is open.”
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Speaking of Freelancer’s neck of cosmos, let me hop in my custom built ride and zip over to Omega 41 and explain why what’s there isn’t a “neutron star” but explain and show you what it is and explain why the phenomenon there is astrophysics “Hot Topic”. Or better that I’ll show you with screen shots from Fury and the top science mags because what you see in Omega 41 is damn close to what you’d be seeing in the the real cosmos.
The hot topic is this:
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About the above post. Science is now going to call brown dwarf’s planets. That is if someone doesn’t disprove it. Now forget that thing they labeled as a neutron star being one. All that trash you’re flying through is an accretion disk. No two ways about it and a neutron star has the mass to eat it for a light snack. In fact what one would look like is that phenomenon you see there in the shot I called “Primary” It would set out right about there sucking up stellar gasses until it “collapsed from it’s own weight” thus falling into space-time further as it’s mass increases and past a certain point into a singularity. When that happens, bye bye Omega 41. You’re in range of the event horizon. But now that object in Omega 41 is in just the perfect position for being a brown dwarf circling that real looking neutron star. In fact when I read all this I thought to myself, been there, seen that! For sure! The sights in Omega 41 support what science is saying now.
So what it is now, if it were real is a Brown Dwarf Planet!
See the above for a sense of scale.
So hop on over to Omega 41 and see real science in action!
By the way, what makes a brown dwarf? They’re called “failed stars”. They tried but didn’t quite gain the weight and “slipped backward” into a different path than the star cycle. Theory differs, but the gaining one was the wrong composition in the neighborhood. Those pesky asteroids are too poor in metals. Rocks instead of yummy nickel-iron and the like. Poor thing starved before it could shine!
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On another topic I’ve been wondering about that went on here in my home town. That was the visit here in August when the fates smiled and we we’re “eclipse central.” I was smart and stayed in my yard just out of town. But in town from various parts of the world the “Sirius Group” An astronomy association that came all the way from “across the pond” to here. I have friends here looking to get back in contact. So if you happen to know anyone in this group I hear was from “Europe and the Middle-East” give Jefferson001 a message.
Edit: No these were earthlings. Not the people those shamans were communing with. (Darn it!)
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To a notable member of this site who I’ll not have to name. How cool is this pic of a 16th century French illustration?
Edit: I’m wondering if this wasn’t where that august French filmmaker that put you’re eye out didn’t cop his inspiration huh?
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Infotaining thread indeed Jefferson001
My nickname comes from a Pink Floyd song (for decades only available on bootlegs, until they officially released it on the Early Years box some years ago. Still, they lost the master tape so they just bought the rights to using it from the BBC broadcast of the first moonlanding, which is what they made it for in 1969. So, the best availableversion is still less than perfect. Also, there’s a BBC guy talking over it.). Anyway, the word moonhead of course means ‘headed for the moon’ rather than ‘a head like the moon’, but I like to think my avatar fits both interpretations.
Indeed that map certainly has an atmosphere similar to Le Voyage dans la Lune so it is not at all unlikely Méliès looked at it. Maybe it was even used in Verne’s book on which the movie was based? (Btw I did see the movie but I’m not an expert on the ins and outs, and never read Verne’s book.)
As for planetary and stellar types in FL, I actually hope (and have done some already) to replace all the gas giants by way larger ones (as in: have them dominate a system. The system’s star must therefor be moved out of the center, which might cause some issues with the light)
BTW Shouldn’t the neutron star be a white, perfectly featureless sphere?
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Isaac Arthur made a nice video on the various stellar types and classification systems:
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You are so right! About everything and I suppose I should post something about neutron stars too. Especially about PF. They played there early songs at a concert I caught in Mobile Alabama in early 75’.
No what I was pointing out is where the star would be and tough you’d see it somewhat that gas swirl in that shape could suggest it’s massive gravitation is already warping local space time. Let me get to my apps. And pull up real data. Thought what I cited is the science I’m wondering if they have anything in the visual range on one.
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No Moonhead you wouldn’t see it at all from that distance. There avg is only 30km across an luminosity is down in the infrared. Their one of the heaviest body’s there is and with a mass as heavy in such a small space you wouldn’t be be in line of sight past the gravitational incline until you’re right above it’s position. Not a good place to be. Some neutron stars are only found by the “jets” their position release. Which in one mod they added that effect to that star. (Discovery?) It was neat.
I was sort of hoping the new space telescopes got more than just radio and gamma indications. “Radiation damage detected indeed!”
My programs only had graphic illustrations on the rather rare double jet type and the like.
Look it up on the internet. NASA and the French space program have some good data on the phenomenon. The rest as some of the astronomy sites are interested in the comet.
Was pretty though.
Great video guy I’ll watch! Thank you.
Nope that vid points out as a “planet sized white star” is a white dwarf. Infamous for what happens when a star doesn’t go over to the “dark side.” Like the video saysl, it goes Nova!!
Edit: All sources on cumulative facts on neutron stars pointed to the last place I would have looked:
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Here’s a better map of Sirius :
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Of general interest as some might have heard about the asteroid that zipped past Earth last week. Tonight my group as I’m posting this is looking at Pallas. The second biggest in the belt. Some think she took a hit (the big ones like Pallas got hit all the time) It went below the horizon an hour ago and from what we saw she probably didn’t take a hit big enough to matter.
You’ve probably seen meteors on TV more now and that’s just because everybody seems to have a camera now. They come down in tens to hundreds every night. We logged 15 “falling stars” in the last hour (11:00pm - 12:00am CST US -6 GMT).Best we could manage with time elapse and clean up on my laptop:
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Solar interstellar neighborhood :
Sirius isn’t so far as it seems to be depicted in Freelancer.
I want so much a starmap of the Orion’s arm and the other arms near us.
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Hold on a sec and I’ll edit the post with maps of every star, nebula and galaxy that make up Orion. I’m chatting with a software genius in Cz. Has a converter that is crying for CMP and Mat from OBJ’s!
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Okay FreeStalker mon ami, here’s what will look like as of
0000 GMT tonight. Here’s descriptive photos and in the zip will be unedited maps.Things to remember about Orion. All stars in the body are binaries except the head and 1 one leg.
Next except in Hollywood and non-astronomers the binary star on the left shoulder is pronounced phonetically as “Bet L Ghi oose EE” not “Beteljuice”.
The "Smudge under his belt is a VERY busy place with galaxies and nebula.
Thanks for asking, this is why I started this topic!
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Thanks !
Beteljuice ? The nights on the planets can’t be peaceful… Freaking ghosts ! (Cinema joke )
Although I was more thinking about a 3D map like in EVE Online where you can center on each stars. It’s more a job for scientists and engineers when you think ^_^'.
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Those are out of my league guy. Though they’re online I’m afraid for the moment astronomers are concerned about where they are from Earth. At least you know the names to look for and which are binaries and what colors and so on. Though relative distances and bearings from each other is a question I can ask astrophysics if none of my software will do what you showed. Though I know they span almost the entire arm of the galaxy. I’m afraid all astronomers see is a 2d view. But at least now you know which ones to look for. Though a Freelancer Map in 3D? There’s a concept. Rotatable of course. Good idea.
Edit: Found the app! 3D galaxy! More megabytes than my I can download right now. (Says will take me 7 hours!) Will try it when my data cap rolls around at the end of month and shoot you the take in your inbox.
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Wish I’d looked into this sooner. It got interesting, as in living in “interesting times” type interesting.
I shall summate a 100,000 word definition of “Interesting”.
1. The major program school uses is 8 years old. In Flash. (Star maps in crayon). No save. No printout.
Some major stars in Orion were out of it’s range. It centered on star at center of belt and no way change to others.2. After 2 hours wandering from department to department found someone who told me:
“Oh sure! It’s sort of a work in progress but they have JPL (Jet Propulsion Lab. NASA and the name jet they kept but it means Rocket) people pitching in.”
http://stars.chromeexperiments.com
Be prepared. I wasn’t able to load it into my smartphone’s browser. After 15 minutes loading and loading it ran out of memory.
Good luck, but I think that link is about as good as your apt to get. All the other programs to do what you suggest cost MAJOR money. That link I was told is free.
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Really nice ! I like this. The ability to center on stars where we can have a description from wikipedia makes this website clearly awesome !
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Group broke up early am when clouds rolled on. Wheeled into all night diner next to wifi hotspot and we sat there transfixed for four hours around our laptops.
AWESOME!
You should post screen shots! They are super!
I would if I could. And admit when on laptop it slipped my mind.
Red Wizard volunteered to herald this discover to the local ivory tower. The Astro dept would take years to find this site on their own. It’s just starting to get mention. Still maxes memory on this phone half way through. Now I see why!
Still can’t get outside Campus internet on most hotspots in town. (Work around for 2000+ sites US and campus blocked was to hobble everything from local wifi, Starbucks and grocery chain doesn’t and they have a full parking lot and a hundred logged in at any one time.)
Man EVERYONE here thanks me for finding this site and I’m telling them someone else (you) got me on the trail.
Merci.
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Here is the screen you wished.
It works very good on my configuration :
AMD Phenom II x4 965 BE at 3.8 GHz
4096 MB RAM
AMD Radeon HD 6870It’s interesting that there is a big amount of stars around us, it seems that this is due to the fact that prior to the creation of the Solar system a star was there and died. If I remember well.