Flak Turrets implementation

I originally had that exact same issue you are describing robocop. But after much tweaking and unexpected side effects, the flak code that I posted works flawlessly for me. I have not had a single stuck flak bullet in a very, very long time.

Yeah, I’m using your code and finding the problems fixed. Thanks much.

Do you remember the formula offhand on how to figure out range of missiles? I know the muzzle velocity, lifetime of the motor, and the lifetime of the munition all factor in, but I don’t remember the details.

R

Well, classical physics should work fine normally

RANGE = MUZZLE_VELOCITY * LIFETIME + (ACCELERATION * MOTOR_LIFETIME ^ 2) / 2 + (MUZZLE_VELOCITY + ACCELERATION * MOTOR_LIFETIME) * (LIFETIME - MOTOR_LIFETIME)

That should work, although it may be possible to simplify it a bit ;D

I don’t know why, but i don’t get this effect to work. I wanted to modify the Battleship Flaks already implemented in the discovery mod, because they aren’t realy flakguns in my eyes. So i placed the gf_explosion_super_flak.ale in the fx/explosions folder and modified the entry in weapon_equip:

[Motor]
nickname = li_battleship_flak_turret01_motor
lifetime = 1
accel = 500
delay = 0

[Explosion]
nickname = li_battleship_flak_turret01_explosion
effect = li_flakcannon01_impact
lifetime = 0.000000, 0.000000
process = disappear
strength = 0
radius = 250
hull_damage = 750
energy_damage = 0
impulse = 50

[Munition]
nickname = li_battleship_flak_turret01_ammo
ids_name = 263383
explosion_arch = li_battleship_flak_turret01_explosion
hp_type = hp_gun
requires_ammo = false
hit_pts = 1000000
one_shot_sound = null
detonation_dist = 75
lifetime = 1
Motor = li_battleship_flak_turret01_motor
force_gun_ori = false
const_effect = li_flakcannon01_proj
HP_trail_parent = HPExhaust
seeker = DUMB
time_to_lock = 0
DA_archetype = equipment\models\torpedoes\ge_torpedo.3db
material_library = equipment\models\ge_equip.mat
mass = 200
volume = 0.000100

[Gun]
nickname = li_battleship_flak_turret01
ids_name = 263383
ids_info = 264383
DA_archetype = equipment\models\turret\li_turret04.cmp
material_library = equipment\models\li_turret.mat
HP_child = HPConnect
hit_pts = 25000
explosion_resistance = 0.1
debris_type = debris_turret_small
parent_impulse = 0
child_impulse = 0
volume = 16.000000
mass = 10
hp_gun_type = hp_turret_special_10
damage_per_fire = 0
power_usage = 170
refire_delay = 0.5
muzzle_velocity = 500
toughness = 10
light_anim = l_gun01_flash
projectile_archetype = li_battleship_flak_turret01_ammo
separation_explosion = sever_debris
auto_turret = true
turn_rate = 1000
lootable = true
dispersion_angle = 18

the effects_explosion:

[Effect]
nickname = li_flakcannon01_impact
effect_type = EFT_EXPLOSION_SHIP
vis_effect = gf_explosion_super_flak
;snd_effect = med_explosion1
snd_effect = flak_explosion_sound
lgt_effect = elite_flash_to_red
lgt_range_scale = 30
lgt_radius = 30

and the explosions_ale

[VisEffect]
nickname = gf_explosion_super_flak
alchemy = fx\explosions\gf_explosion_super_flak.ale
effect_crc = 290209852
textures = fx\sarma.txm
textures = fx\lightbeam.txm
textures = fx\standardeffects.txm
textures = fx\kioncannon.txm

The weapon has the new values, but the effect is just one small explosion, like it was before.

Might want to try

dispersion_angle = ……

and maybe

DA_archetype = equipment\models\weapons\br_auto_shotgun.cmp
material_library = equipment\models\br_equip.mat

which will give you a gun with 5 HpFire.

I have used dispersion_angel (last line in weapon_equip). But i can’t use another archetyp, because it is a optional modification. Or am i wrong, that the archetyp have to be the same for the people without the mod and those, which have the mod?

…… i suppose both (archetype + dispersion) have 2 be on the client
and should be on the server 2.

Hit detection is usually done on the client (w0dk4 is the man 2 ask )
and dispersion effects that.

It’s a funny thing 4 ‘2nd hand weapons’ ;D
and 2.5 make it hard 2 hit anything.

The mod will be on the server, but it must be an optional mod for the client, so i can’t use different archetyps. Robocop said on the last page, that he got it to work with Why485’s code, so i used it, too.

hit detection is done on client AND on the server side

it simply depends on which kind of hit detection you mean coz there are different kinds

I don’t mean any hit detection. I am wondering, why i see just one explosion, while i used the same code as Why485. This is, what i asked for.

@Aeril:

I don’t mean any hit detection ……

… so dispersion and the numbers of HpFire effect that,
that was just an argument,
if you might need those changes client and/or server side.