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…… 4 one more little smile ;D
you might want 2 go THERE

PS. and u shouldn’t miss the XFire page linked in the signature.

Startrader is right to a certain extent.

@ Original poster
Basically do whatever floats your boat. There is precious little anyone can do to stop you, so it’s up to your concise - as said.

@Startrader
Most of your post just seemed to highlight that if they wish to take things willy nilly, then they can. Furthermore, it seems to indicate that putting anything on the internet means this is okay to do as well.

Fair enough - personally it’d have been more valuable to simply give the flipside of what respecting people’s requests will mean, as well as the downside of not doing so. Simply stating that nothing will happen if you do what you like seems… to be advocating them to do what they like.

It’s the way it reads. Whether it’s what you mean/intend it or not, it does read like you’re basically saying “hey pal, if you decide to take stuff, nothing bad will happen - so if they say no, or you hear nothing - you can, ya know, either not have the ships OR just sod them!”

goes and removes own source code and looks around suspiciously
I suddenly don’t feel comfortable with this idea of “sharing”, as “sharing” has taken on the feeling of bending over and grabbing ankles

Why I read this thread I dunno, I waste too much time and don’t really have any interest in anything here to be quite frank.

Adios.

@F!R:

…… 4 one more little smile ;D
you might want 2 go THERE

PS. and u shouldn’t miss the XFire page linked in the signature.

Wold it make you feel better for me to just reply here? I’m also glad to see someone found out site. ;D

Now back to the original matter. As I read through this, I’ve notices that it’s beginning to turn into a battle of rights. I would like to add me 2 cents on this.

First off, this thread was started to ask the develops of all the major mods if we / he could use the models from them, not the info or anything else, as long as credit was given to the fullest extent. I’ve done the research and we understand the copyright laws on custom materials and models for customizations made to existing corporate video games. Long story short, we have to have a written permission of each designer / contributor to every ship. That’s where this thread comes in. Yes Griff should email everyone he can, but as many people don’t realize, most of the emails that are posted in the readme files and the script files don’t work. Now being that most of the emails don’t work, or no one ever responds with a yes or no, how do you contact those people?

I’m just saying this because I would like to see Griff’s project follow through. As well as the idea behind it on how he’s going to build the universe behind it, I feel is ingenious. If nothing else, this could become a community project. I mean what would it hurt for all the groups to get together and help a little, if not just offering their ships? This is just my opinion. To get things straight, I’m not a part of this project except to help him where he needs. In essence, Griff’s on his own here. So why sit here and say, “No you can’t have our ships”, when just letting him use it, and only the ship wouldn’t be the end of the world.

Which with that said, I’m going to ask y’all somethng;
Why is it so bad to allow someone to use your ships?

lol Chips dont make a drama out of this, get your act together ;D

Hold on, Chips old feller, keep yer hair on…

You’ve been a valuable member of the FL “community” and I am one of those that appreciates your efforts most.

No offence either way pal.

This repeated “debacle” always becomes a fiasco because of peoples’ over-protectionism, with their own work in mind.

My reply just tries to place the facts and practical aspects on the table rather than the “ideals” of the deterrent of threatened but impractical law suits, before the fiasco starts - but it didn’t succeed in preventing it either.

In any case I’m done.

Let your consciences prevail, those of you who have them.

I would say you can use our ships, however, as not many people have use for ships of 1km and above length,
There doesn’t seem to be much point in it ^.^
But yeah just give us a bell if you want to use them here:
http://black-dawn.fl-wt.com/

Edit: I thought about what I said in another post about hyper balancing the sci-fi ships to what they origenaly were designed to be like, I think I will turn FL-PVP into a “nascar” sorta. In the idea of keeping all the data complete and to it’s true form from each creator. That way when you fly the ship, use the weapons, and read the info card data, it all points to it’s origen. Kinda like “sponcers” of the product. Hope that gets across the way I’m trying to say it.

You need to work out what your wanting to do, First your going to re-balance all the ships and say “hey, we have re-balanced your ships look how good a job we have done”. Then you turn round and say, “Ah, nope, were leaving them as they are”.

So you are basically going to have all the ships in your mod as they are. Uhm, sort of like every other ship-pack mod out there.

Just take some time and THINK about what your doing before you make some posts in the large FL communities and fundamentally change it “on the hoof”. Maybe theres some other fundamental stuff you have not thought about? Maybe make a check list or something, or a plan?…

And someone asked why people dont like others using their ships… ;D

@Griffin:

Oh hey, Dark Angel, thankyou. I can deffinetaly use large ships. If you want to jump on an instant messanger we can work out the details.

I deinetaly like the idea of putting the entire ship’s information in the info cards. That way when you jump in a ship that you haven’t seen before you can look up the data and you can se what mod it’s from, who made it, and all the neet little things about it.

Edit: I thought about what I said in another post about hyper balancing the sci-fi ships to what they origenaly were designed to be like, I think I will turn FL-PVP into a “nascar” sorta. In the idea of keeping all the data complete and to it’s true form from each creator. That way when you fly the ship, use the weapons, and read the info card data, it all points to it’s origen. Kinda like “sponcers” of the product. Hope that gets across the way I’m trying to say it.

Sent you a PM