Nah, I always run error checkers and always make sure they are clean. This is what is puzzling me. First time I actually flew into that system actually, and noticed the crash. Damn encounter-problems (I think :P)… so elusive… i’ve review it later I guess by hand…

I don’t know about SP. I know it works in MP.
I also don’t know why missions are not showing up with your added faction without seeing the mod.

Does the faction have an enemy populating the system? I don’t remember off hand if they have to be populating a base, but at least they need to be showing up in chance encounters.

Both factions need to be populating the system. The faction offering the missions needs to populate a base in the system (obvious). The vignettes need to be within 40k of the base offering the missions, and at least one of those vignettes should be overlapping the base.

Finally, the two factions need to be hostile with each other. This is set in empathy.ini and intitialworld.ini.

Yeah that certainly is one way of interpreting it 😉

I fixed that issue, although I didn’t address it ‘directly’, rather re-did a bunch of crap to eliminate as much as possible as the issue. Got fed up by a certain point 😛 The paths seemed to be ok once running the path gen. I’m thinking it was more along the lines of a zone issue… probably an exclusion zone(s), as they were present in both the systems that seemed to be problematic 🙂

A lot of what we thought we knew before is being rediscovered by adoxa as he goes through the FL engine.

The only way to confirm either way is by setting up the right tests having one vignette zone only so there is no confusion, and try it out.

Voices aren’t required for bases to function correctly, though it is recommended so players whom hail NPCs know where they’re going.

I’m not really sure what the deal is with the “pilot_f_ill_m02”, as that voice functions fine for me (as do the a and b varients).

With the tractors, yeah, make sure they’re not mounted on any solars. You can place 'em as cargo though, as Bejaymac said.

they dont have much of an effect, as it’s all to do with mass and the amount of force needed to send a weapon/engine flying through space.

OMFG! Check this shiz out guys… The cause seems to be either certain equipment having a price of $0. I take it, this aint possible… After I fixed up all my equipment that had a price of 0, things seemed to settle down. All that garbage disappeared. I also found a goods entry (a commodity) that had an ids_name of 0. I can’t see this as being the problem, but that resulted in the olde ‘Object Unknown’ text… hmm this may well be fixed. And it wasn’t because i’m tieing an infocard and a name to the number after all…

IIRC “type = NON_TARGETABLE” is what you use in the solararch.ini

Yeah, so if I ever meet you in RL, I owe you a drink 😉 Thanks bud! All working.

… ok … don’t drink + post.

Glad it’s helped, guys. Sorry that, as you have seen, it’s not perfect, particularly the strafe force settings, so some tweaking is needed.

One tip - I had a drop-down variable of +20% to -20% in 5% steps in my spreadsheet as a multiplier on the steering_torque so I could make ships in the same class more sluggish or more manoeuverable than the standard, this gave a nice variation in performance of similar-sized ships.

Someone else said somewhere (sorry, forgot who & where but it’s here somewhere!) that the engine force was not calculated - well that’s very easy to add into the same spreadsheet, since the mass is used there - I did that in mine. And I found it easy to format the output cells ready tocopy & paste into the ini file, e.g. steering_torque = + the X, Y & Z parameters. My spreadsheet is very hard to find your way round it or I would have released it already. But it is really easy to make your own the way you want it.

The formatting command is quite easy in Excel:
For the Steering Torque, type this into the cell you want to copy from ready for pasting into the shiparch.ini file:
=Concatenate("steering_torque = ",(cell for X force),", ",(cell for Y force),", ",(cell for Z force))

and in the next cell below for Angula Drag:
=Concatenate("angular_drag = ",(cell for X drag),", ",(cell for Y drag),", ",(cell for Z drag))

and in the next cell below that for Rotation Inertia:
=Concatenate("rotation_inertia = ",(cell for X inertia),", ",(cell for Y inertia),", ",(cell for Z inertia))

If you have a formula for strafe force put this in the next cell below:
=Concatenate("strafe_force = ",(cell for strafe force))

And for nudge Force in the next cell below:
=Concatenate("nudge_force = ",(cell for strafe force))

And if you calculate strafe power usage:
=Concatenate("strafe_power_usage = ",(cell for strafe power usage))

If you want to be more expert then you can name the cells containing the values for your settings, and refer to them by name in the concatenate cell, e.g. X-Force, Y-Force, Z-Force, X-drag, Y-drag, Z-drag, X-inertia, Y-inertia, Z-inertia, strafe-force, nudge-force, strafe-power:

e.g.: =Concatenate("steering_torque = “,X-force,”, “,Y-force,”, ",Z-force)

You can name cells by clicking in the cell and overtyping the cell reference in the little Name Box window (left of the formula bar) with the name you want the cell to be called.

Simples! <click>I can help with some Excel queries, just ask.

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Stop teasing me! 😄

Hehe. Anything you would be willing to share would be awesome mate. My email box is always open if all else fails, haha! It’s not for anything big. Just something that would add a little more originality to the game is all 😉

I figured I’d mention that locked_gate can be used on any solar object, including stations. This is a great way to make a generic npc-only base that is defined in any system (players crash upon entering/exiting a base not defined for just that system), for things like catering to cargo-scan patrol paths (which must start and end at a faction base), etc.

Also, I’ve been using locked_gate lines for a while now, and it seems like MP characters are updated to the new locked_gate entries as soon as they log in, even if some are deleted. I don’t know about SP saves though, as those are an entirely different beast.

I believe this topic hasn’t been active since January guys: “Posted on: 1/21”