Mission Impossible - Cargo Extending
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From my programming experience of Freelancer, I realised, like probably most of you did, that all the features the mods of today add, were planned to alredy be in the game.
What this thread refers to is the usage of the cargo pod. In the mods I saw, they are actually used only for beauty and don’t do their job.
I heared many times how impossible it is to make cargo extender, although it doesn’t seems so hard (but who am I to judge). If this feature was planned to be in the game by it’s creators, there must be a file (DLL probably) which contains it, and if not there must be a possibility to create a DLL that adds it.
I saw alredy the “different cruise speed” addon, which means its possible to add not existing features to the game.If there is an existing file, please link me to the download.
If not, I’ll be very very thankful if you will be able to create one, and this will also promote the Freelancer modding by a big step. -
I could possibly detect when a cargo pod is attached and increase the ship’s hold, but that’s only half the problem. Filling the cargo pod(s) such that when they blow off you’ve lost the cargo is the hard point, and the reason I won’t do it.
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Hi TheDvdMan,
This is entirely possibly because it is a feature of FLAntiCheat but it isn’t a feature that’s already built into the game that you enable, it’s a feature that needs to be coded and added as new.
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i mounted them to players ships one big problem with them is once they are shot off no way to get them back
see my idea was when you shot them off you would lose cargo
basicly the anticheat would have been fine with that
cos the hold size woudent change and when you bought more goods they would come back
but like i say they dont respawn there your problem
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adoxa wrote:
I could possibly detect when a cargo pod is attached and increase the ship’s hold, but that’s only half the problem. Filling the cargo pod(s) such that when they blow off you’ve lost the cargo is the hard point, and the reason I won’t do it.Is it possible to bypass it somehow? That the cargo stays, but you will have to sell it as you enter the first base unless you can’t fly out.
It may sound a bit not fair, but is it possible? -
I don’t think just increasing the cargo hold should present that much of a problem. To do it realistically, would. But then, maybe not (FLHook coders might know better). In any event, I’ve added it to the todo, but it has a low priority.
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FLAC does it and I believe it’s entirely server-side.
When you take cargo as a train, when you undock FLAC will automatically attach cargopods to the hull (also picking the proper archetypes for each cargo type), rounding up as necessary. When you destroy a cargopod, the proper number of commodities is jettisoned by it and the cargopod’s former capacity is entirely filled by a dummy commodity that cannot be jettisoned, thus effectively reducing the cargo space so you can’t just tractor stuff back in.
All of those steps should be doable on the server (and would thus be far more secure than through client-side hooking).
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I might sound like a total noob, but can you explain what is FLAC? Maby its just a short form I can’t understand.
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A closed-source alternative to FLHook.
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There is also no free download since it costs money.
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Well, there is a demo as far as I know but it’s restricted (not all features, 2 players on the server max) and invite-only last I checked.
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FriendlyFire wrote:
Well, there is a demo as far as I know but it’s restricted (not all features, 2 players on the server max) and invite-only last I checked.^ That sucks!
So whats better? FLAC of FLHook?Edit: I googled FLAC and it says its a kind of an audio codec.
Check it out: http://flac.sourceforge.net/ -
Wrong one… Free Lossless Audio Codec (FLAC) vs FreeLancer AntiCheat (FLAC).
And there’s no “better”, just different. What’s better, a sports car or a luxury car?
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I googled FLAC and it says its a kind of an audio codec.
Check it out: http://flac.sourceforge.net/FAIL detected
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Linky Eagle Utopia FLAC
To quote the Blurb
Our software is not publically availalbe, copies are only provided to experienced server operators and their affiliates
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Im sorry… but am i the only one who thinks making $$ of FL is a big bad red flag?? For fracks sake… for most of us… its a hobby!! but yet agian the best and most helpfull app is resticted… and made to pay for…
I think it stinks… but then im a realist… and mostly everything stinks (lolz)
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Well it’s all moot as Eagle is giving up FL. Alphawolf is dealing with it all these days and he’s the man to talk to about improving FLAC. While i agree making money from FL is not good, fact is there is a choice here.
1. It’s an addon for FL you can pay for, not part of the original code
2. It adds features that are unique to the server software
3. You can always use something else like FLHook
4. FLAC isn’t the only other popular addon for FL that people pay for, there’s also Milkshape.On a side note note, if you people actually use Google properly and type “Freelancer FLAC” then Eagle’s forum is the first hit.
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@Xarian: Youre right! No one makes money of Freelancer mods today.
@Gibbon:
FLAC isn’t the only other popular addon for FL that people pay for, there’s also Milkshape.
Milkshape is not an addon to Freelancer. Its a universal 3D program which is easy to make plugins to, and has all the popular games formats alredy plugged in. It wasn’t made for Freelancer.
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Don’t read me wrong here… FLAC is pretty awesome from what i’ve seen it do for others servers… I just feel it wrong to make money from modders/community’s in general…
However… don’t get me started on ms3d…. that’s just a plain wrought when there’s blender… and nothing for freelancer when almost every other format is well covered by some sort of free converter/program…
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Yeah, it’s pretty awesome to take the FLHook sourcecode, rewrite it in C#, add some nice features to it and sell it for money (without sharing anything).
Just my few words about FLAC.
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