Need help with sur

Thank you, I bookmarked and downloaded and will play with this as soon as I have the chance to do so. More questions coming I’m sure

Nova wrote:

z_shadow_1.sur Root
z_shadow_2.sur zomgbayz01
z_shadow_3.sur zomgbayz02
z_shadow_4.sur zomgbayz03
z_shadow_5.sur zomgbayz04
z_shadow_6.sur zomgbayz05
z_shadow_7.sur zomgbayz06
z_shadow_8.sur zomgbayz07
z_shadow_9.sur zomgbayz08
z_shadow_10.sur zomgbayz09
z_shadow_11.sur zomgbayz10
z_shadow_12.sur zomgbayz11
z_shadow_13.sur zomgbayz12
z_shadow_14.sur zomgbayz13
............

Where is this from? I need to imagine the future parts or what?

it’s in the ini.ini present in the hitbox_tools.rar
take a look at it
you have to fill it with as many parts you have done

edit : and of course change the names to match to your cmp

obviously instead of zomgbays[blahblah] in the right you have to put in your cmp’s object names.

in fact you can put what you want for the names but it have to match in the entire cmp
i prefere keep zomgbayzXXX at the end, therefore i can just drag and drop from another cmp

@Nova : you have one part ? i don’t understand
you talk about your cmp ?
if yes, nevermind, you have to draw the boxes around your cmp in 3dsmax and then export all these boxes and follow the tutorial

Mirkha is custom hitbox king. hats off

Because he has made very many.

You should see his hair - he doesn’t have much left!

yes it’s me here, just after that i done a hitbox

trust me, follow the tutorial and you’ll keep your hairs

I got everytime the same problem with surplice: no collision for all sur groups except the root for the player.

Full collisions for NPCs and objects but not for player.

What could it be? I followed the video and your written tutorial 2 times, everytime a great result… but everytime no physical collisions for the player!

I don’t think its sur splicers fault but here the entry of my ini:
Zug.sur
Zug_cons_fix.dat
70
200000 200000 200000
cargotrain.sur Root
cargotrainengine01.sur Sur_Zug1_lod1
cargotrainengine02.sur Sur_Zug2_lod1
cargotrainanhaenger1.sur Sur_Zug3_lod1
cargotrainanhaenger2.sur Sur_Zug4_lod1
cargotrainanhaenger3.sur Sur_Zug5_lod1
cargotrainanhaenger4.sur Sur_Zug6_lod1

All sur files are working and are convex.
The groups for the ship (sur_zug*_lod1) works well too, no change if I use multigroups created via the normal exporter in milkshape.

the lod1 at the end are not necessary

have you put in the cmp the Zug_cons_fix.dat ?
which dll do you use ?
i work with the 0.2.1 for cmp and 1.1 for the sur

I imported the cons fix made by sursplicer and I’m using the same dlls like you.

can you upload the cmp here ?
and i take a look at it

http://erik.gmod.de/Eriks Zeug/Freelancer/Zug.7z
Everything you will need.

ok :

1 - your Sur2.ms3d doesn’t have a blank material assign to the parts then it’s necessary
2 - you don’t add the little square we need to make the sur works properly, it’s on the video made by sushi, if you can’t find it i could upload it somewhere, let me know
3 - the _lod1 are totally useless, so don’t add it on the ini.ini and so on the cmp
4 - i don’t have the mat file and at this time i have to rebuilt a cmp from scratch so i need it
5 - the Zug.cmp is about 244.94 meters but the ZugNeu.ms3d you give me is about 22534.46 meters, so i concluded you export from this ms3d but with 92 on the cmp exporter settings
but the settings need to be “back to front” and “scale down = 1”

1 - your Sur2.ms3d doesn’t have a blank material assign to the parts then it’s necessary
2 - you don’t add the little square we need to make the sur works properly, it’s on the video made by sushi, if you can’t find it i could upload it somewhere, let me know
3 - the _lod1 are totally useless, so don’t add it on the ini.ini and so on the cmp
4 - i don’t have the mat file and at this time i have to rebuilt a cmp from scratch so i need it
5 - the Zug.cmp is about 244.94 meters but the ZugNeu.ms3d you give me is about 22534.46 meters, so i concluded you export from this ms3d but with 92 on the cmp exporter settings
but the settings need to be “back to front” and “scale down = 1”

To 1.:
I read everywhere, that sur meshes have to be blank (no material).

To 2.:
I think the method with the squares is necessary with more than 18 groups. I’m working with 7.
I also tried it already with the squares.

To 3.:
_lod1 or not makes no difference.

To 4.:
Same mats like the freight train x4 (ships/utility/freight_train)

To 5.: Yes its for scaledown factor 92, so my model is 92times bigger in milkshape then in real.
Back to front was always enabled.

ok, for the 1, trust me it’s necessary
i have done a looooooooooot of testing and with a material, without a texture of course but with, it works
without not
i personnaly allways add the box event if it’s less than 18 groups
i don’t think that the collision will works without
for the scale down i advice you to have a ms3d at the same size than the cmp

i take the mat and rebuild a cmp
i’ll give you news tomorow

Found any relevant mistake I made?

I haven’t yet the time to work on but i give you news asap