.obj -> .sur converter

Good Luck^^

Schmackbolzen wrote:
Yes, plus there are some things to be done for the mod I am working for (hooking etc.) and also university started again this week ^^.

I plan to continue working an the converter as soon as I finished the mod stuff (which should not take more than 1-2 weeks).

That’s about now, right?

Hate to prompt you Schmackbolzen, but this is the thrid time I am waiting for a sur tool, and the third year, and I’m getting older and don’t know how long more I will live waiting for this perfect sur tool. :pint:

And I don’t want it to be on your conscience for the rest of your life that I died waiting for you.

And I don’t know what is the next more scary and scaly and hard-skinned animal after the crocodile…??

a gibbon?

A Gibbon?

No, you’re too furry and cuddly, old pal!

Besides, I wouldn’t want to compromise your chances with the female gibbons by having two of us on show!

And then again in this day and age they might think we’re “an item”!

Maybe a T-Rex! ??
I’ll look into it, just in case… !

We’re your silent audience, Schmackbolzen!

Well… OK, as you know, I’m not the silent type.

That’s great news, Schmack, thanks for your continuing work on this.

I have a question to throw out here now, though, ever since the use of this .sur creator has anyone noticed that their turret hitboxes no longer register hits?

Or in other words, that the turrets no longer detect projectiles or collisions while attached to a model?

Thanks for the update Schmack, waiting in anticipation, hopefully you can find out the cause of the freeze that affects you as well.

Schmackbolzen wrote:
@Sushi: I never checked this. If you are absolutely sure (means that you can reproduce that on all your models), then i will have to include real geometry for the weapons, thrusters etc. For now I just insert the hardpoints crcs into the .sur file to prevent crashes, but in the vanilla .sur files there also is real geometry for them.

Ya, I’m getting Adoxa to help with this problem, too. But that would be great if you could possibly include that for future updates.

OK. So this is a video showing the problem. The first video is with the old hitbox we custom made (took forever) for the ship. Turret hitboxes were applied appropriately. The second part of the video is with Schmacks amazing new hitbox maker with our old hitboxes for the turrets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDe2_fqLhmU

You can see the projectiles no longer register. This issue is ubiquitous in the mod. Would be great for someone else to confirm this issue, though.

Adoxa applied the turret to the .sur like you’re suggesting, Schmack and it worked. So, ya, when you can work on the hitbox exporter, that would be awesome

Schmackbolzen wrote:
Well I guess then we know now what the HP geometry in the .sur files is for: To further speed up collision detection. I have an idea how to include it, I will try to implement it in the next version.

Awesome, Schmack. Thanks for everything thus far. Get to it when you can, no rush

Pretending for a moment that i know nothing about sur files (which i don’t) and cooing like a pigeon when LS’s sur builder and now Schmack’s utility came out for making surs, can someone explain to me in laymans terms why the turret hitbox is needed.

From my perspective, if a custom turret model has it’s own sur, like in vanilla and many custom models, (i make a point of having custom turret models where possible), surely the fact that these models have custom surs and are therefore independent of say a base or capship sur, means that they should work as they are seperate from each other?

Your utility has already allowed me to make surs for some very peculiar shapes, including asteroid bases you can fly into and odd shaped ships and all the surs work fine, (have to check this turret thing as i’m curious now). So take your time, between your utility and Lancers, can make just about any sur i like, (well almost )

Hmm, I created a hitbox for this base using the converter.

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r330/SilentAssassin82/Untitled-5.png

I actually had to splice the parts together because the doors where animated. In doing this I deleted the HPIDs section of the sur and all the turrets do register hits. I dunno why but the turrets on that model are fine ingame.

On stations (stationary objects) the surs of the weapons itself will be used.
On ships the surs of the hardpoints will be used.
(I think)

SilentAssassin82 wrote:
Hmm, I created a hitbox for this base using the converter.

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r330/SilentAssassin82/Untitled-5.png

I actually had to splice the parts together because the doors where animated. In doing this I deleted the HPIDs section of the sur and all the turrets do register hits. I dunno why but the turrets on that model are fine ingame.

Interesting. So, in all my ship models, like the ISD in the video, I added HPID section for the hardpoints. I wonder if that’s the issue? Because when we made custom hitboxes, we never had to add that section before…

Interesting. How would I go about deleting this from the .sur, Schmack, to test?

And Skotty, no, I don’t believe it does work like that. The big ship in the video I made is a “station”.

OK, that did it. You remove the HPID section from your .sur, and the turret hitboxes magically appear.

So, with that said, what are the hardpoints that must be in the HPID to prevent crashing?

I remember HpCM01…what else was there?