Global FL tournament !!
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Huhu,
this thing just came up at my mind. ;DPlayers from every server are welcome to find out who is the best pvp-fighter
Vanilla FL server would be the best because it nobody will need to download a mod, most of players have played it already (in contrast to specific and single modifications) so this one should be the fairest solution.
Server admins & players, please spread this around at your server forum.
(simple copy & paste with the post but with the link to this thread of course)Register here in the thread !!
Registered members:
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This is a good idea, and one we have been thinking about for around 4 months.
But firstly, it needs to remain COMPLETELTY unrelated to ANY other server. Therefor run on a dedicated box.
You need to balance the Tournaments for Modder ships and Vanilla. Why? Because some players wont join unless they get to use their favourite ship. But if you use modded ships, does this show favourtism to certain mods? Will you get permission to use those ships? Will certain servers not take part because you have missed some of their ships? Will you include events for Traders? What about races? Whats the prize (people will want one)?
You will need an entire staff team. To monitor the events / rounds. To moderate what will be a VERY busy forum. To stop arguements and flaming starting, which naturally will occur. This cant be a entirely staff by one server, this will lead to favouritsm. You will need a staff team spanning various servers and communities to ensure fairness it the top of everyones agenda.
And show much more. This is why we have constantly come across issues with this plan.
I suggested on Havens Admin forum about 18 months ago a cross server tournament and originally was going to do something with FL:WT, MU and TFL. This unfortunately never came to fruitition.
If you are serious about this endeavour, I would recommend you spend more time putting strict and tight measures in place first to avoid any potential backfire.
Regards,
Roo
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@Ships: Yeah, but how do you want to solve this? Or do you want to create a HUGE MOD just for the tournament? As I have stated above, every one played Vanilla FL. And of course, I don’t believe people will register if they have to download a big mod first.
@Prize: I thought about it too, could server admins coop with me here? Would you give gifts for the winner as prize at your server? Or should we do some thing T SP - related? May be a special rank with a picture stating that he/she won a tournament here?
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Everyone played Vanilla and enjoyed it, but as I said, people like Modded ships.
You see, thats the problem. How do you please everyone at once to make it a success?
When I am home, I will look you up on MSN and we can have a chat,
Roo
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With vanilla ships and physics that would put some players at a severe disadvantage and others with the edge to slaughter everyone (Some mods change the behavior of their ships and the speeds they fly at). It would be hard to find a happy medium I think. The only thing I can think of is change the way the vanilla ships maneuver or use a mod that has slight changes (Like Evo or Fightspace or something similar).
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What about to post it @ server boards and let the players decide?
@Prize: Eh, I could give away webspace (& FTP Accounts, Email Accounts, Support…) to the winner(s).
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Very Good Idea only problem would be in vanilla everyone would do the sigma 13 new berlin trade run to get the credits for a set up, Then the next problem would be everyone heading to sigma 13 .ommicron beta .ommicron theta ,ommicron alpha and everyother wreck for the code guns,which means other players could not get them until a server restart. But all in all a good idea ;D
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**Have you thought about making a single system mod without jumpholes or gates. The have the new players start in that system. That would stop any type of ‘get the code guns’ problem. Also, make it where there is only a single ship and equipment available….
On top of that it would be a very small mod.**
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@Lancer:
**Have you thought about making a single system mod without jumpholes or gates. The have the new players start in that system. That would stop any type of ‘get the code guns’ problem. Also, make it where there is only a single ship and equipment available….
On top of that it would be a very small mod.**
This is similar to what the last global attempt used, the mods name will come to me.
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Its a good idea.
To keep things unbiased, we could call it after TSP or even just ‘Freelancer Tournament Mod’. Something that doesnt refer to any other Mod.
Now before people keep throwing ideas out there and the thread becomes bogged down, would servers owners/admins and players alike actually SUPPORT and TAKE PART in this idea?
This has to be addressed first. Otherwise people will waste time creating the tournament.
So, for the time being, dont post ideas. Just post whether you would support the tournament (advertising on your server / promoting it to your players) and whether or not as a player you would take part.
If then we have the numbers to do something, we can look at putting ideas together.
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I suggest a Clan tournament
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Again???
Ive personally put MU forward for joining in a global server event 7 times and each time it never happens.
So please dont just say you will do this and then 3 months later post saying sorry it isnt going to happen.
Im all for it but i will remain sceptical until i see it running.
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Global event are allways funny, but they’re pretty hard to plan and manage. If we really want to get this thing real we need to get this message to all freelancer players and (thats the harder part) we need to find a stable server to do this. But I see another problem. If pilots from all over the world connect to one server and fight in a tournament some of them will start to flame because of lag (that simply is going to appear, no doubt there). I don’t want to critizise you idea but we as a community need to plan this thing really good or it is going to collaps without the chance to start.
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What about goal based team events instead of free for all? So like ]Imperium[Thrawn suggested but with a goal bedsides just killing everyone. In fact, you could allow respawns and let everyone continue to participate until one team wins.
We’ve tried a few goal based team events on the Ioncross server and in my opinion they shift focus from twitch skills to tactics. My explanations is that distracting a player is just as useful as kill if it keeps him from helping with his team’s goal, and by harassing multiple attackers instead of getting into a concentrated fight with one of them a single light fighter can significantly reduce how much attacking ships can focus on their target.
So far the goal of the events has always been to destroy or protect a player in a heavily armoured capital ship, but we’ve discussed other goals such as search and rescue/destroy, station blockades, convoy escort, and nomad invasions. The difficulty with some is that they require an impartial player to fly a target ship, so they don’t just hide in a station or off 1000k above the system. And others require some modding, which we’re not willing to do for a one day event.
Just something for whoever can host a tournament to consider.
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@Roo:
You need to balance the Tournaments for Modder ships and Vanilla. Why? Because some players wont join unless they get to use their favourite ship. But if you use modded ships, does this show favourtism to certain mods? Will you get permission to use those ships? Will certain servers not take part because you have missed some of their ships? Will you include events for Traders? What about races? Whats the prize (people will want one)?
You can’t please everyone. I know it sounds like an asinine thing to say, but it’s the truth - how do you ‘balance’ a tournament for modded ships and players? The number of Freelancer mods available, and the things that they change and tweak are near infinite.
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How do you balance it? Simple. Create a new mod from scratch with 1 ship and 1 gun. Make the gun fire two missiles that explode after 0.1s, do -1 damage, and have blast radii of 10000m. See, perfectly balanced. ;D
Also, not very much fun.
Actually…
On second thought, that might be kind of fun. I guess I’d be willing to host a small tournament like that where players start in separate bases and have to hunt each other down and the last player standing (or players if there are two) move(s) on to the next round. Don’t suppose anyone would be interested? -
It is a good idea but past events failed at this scale because if people lose you get flame about
a) Ping
b) Ships used, no one gets their favorite modded ship and using vanilla favours vanilla playersA good way to counter that would be to somply have a Home and Away type. same rules for both events, and the end scores are added up. simplez.
The ping part would be solved with this too.
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@Roo:
You need to balance the Tournaments for Modder ships and Vanilla. Why? Because some players wont join unless they get to use their favourite ship. But if you use modded ships, does this show favourtism to certain mods? Will you get permission to use those ships? Will certain servers not take part because you have missed some of their ships? Will you include events for Traders? What about races? Whats the prize (people will want one)?
You can’t please everyone. I know it sounds like an asinine thing to say, but it’s the truth - how do you ‘balance’ a tournament for modded ships and players? The number of Freelancer mods available, and the things that they change and tweak are near infinite.
Thats exactly my point.
I was attempting to highlight the issues that would need addressing. Obviously I need to word my responses more clearly.
Guys, I also mentioned that instead of filling the thread with ideas, we should first wait to see what servers would be interested.
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I know there are plenty of server tat will join in this, but like me i expect they re pessimistic about the idea until we actually see something more than just a discussion which will no doubt end in no results just like it has the last 4 times this idea has sprung up.
I really would like to see this happen, but theres so much to do to get it right.
