@ FL server admins & T SP staff: wiki
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Hi!
I blame one thing for the wiki being not so popular, especially among players:
The wiki isn’t present to them. Even if they know about it, they don’t see it regulary.So two suggestions:
- @FL server admins: Add a link to the wiki at the navigation of your homepage, blog, forums and/or portal.
- Add a link to the wiki to the FLCNB.
Bah, and I had to re-write this posting since my childish classmates pulled the plug of my machine -.-* ^^
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Wiki must be full screen imho as regular wikipedia.
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I think:
- The Wiki must be justified to the entire width
- More popular parts of The Menu, Twitter, Banners and ADs should be on top by cost of minimisation of TSP Logo.
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I would agree that perhaps the wiki should be more of a ‘standalone’ module of the Starport.
As it stands, it’s a bit overshadowed by the rest of the site, and the fact that it’s actually quite small (as mentioned) draws your eyes away.
I think if it was using the regular Mediawiki layout, just with a Starport logo, it would be a lot more user friendly. With the logo visible on every page, along with the URL, it would still very obviously be the Starport wiki.
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Staff’s opinion?
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“Actually I think it’d be a good idea to let the wiki use the whole width of the site, hiding the navigation bar.”
How should it look like then?Sorry, can’t imagine it somehow how it will look then…
Plus, I think my point 1 would help a lot, too.
“1) @FL server admins: Add a link to the wiki at the navigation of your homepage, blog, forums and/or portal.”
I don’t know how the wiki is configured, but guest edits should be allowed if it isn’t the case yet.
My experience is that users will contribute more the easier it is for them doing so. And how “close” they are to that site. I mean - Imagine you are reading a Gaming wiki, let’s pick up www.finalfantasy.wikia.de, if you know something is wrong or missing there, you can simple add it.
Now think about what will happen if you read at anyone’s blog/homepage/forums. Would you start a google search just to find a wiki you can add your stuff to? I don’t guess so, or at least many people won’t do that, I believe.So you somehow need to take the wiki to them.
If you decide to try to get as many server operators to list the wiki at their portal, you might want to write a news about it so the whole topic about the wiki gets more attention.
After that, we (or call it “Bas”) could contact the remaining FL sites if they want to add the wiki to their portals if they haven’t done after the news was out for a while. -
I click wiki, I don’t recognise it as a wiki…so I’d agree with the traditional wiki look. I like my information clean, and un-cluttered - which is what the “default” wiki look is.
As for the wiki itself…
I click modding, it has a starting link to the modding hand book. I click modding handbook, I get a page saying that page doesn’t exist… (I also note it has edit in the title?).
I try main wiki page, systems, leeds - there is nothing.
Flying and combat tips… combat tips has a few lines, flying is another broken page.
ships -> broken page
weapons & equipment -> broken pageLooking down I see that the wiki is nearly empty, as each italicised and underlined part is non existent.
So the question is - do you need a wiki? There is no point if it serves no purpose, and no information…
(some points, like limit breaking, are awesome. Others, like help getting online, seem to be in wiki format for convenience rather than necessity. I wouldn’t have looked in a wiki for connection problems!).
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A lot of that is because nobody has written it yet, I did do a couple of system pages a few years ago. I gave up because I lost my internet connection for too long. Doesn’t stop anybody else writing though, that’s what wiki’s are about.
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A wiki is a repository of knowledge. All game wikis have a technical issue page, if not section. It’s not unusual or bizarre to have online troubleshooting there, and it’s the sole area that actually makes sense. What, you want people to dig through forum topics for help instead?
Also, what you’re saying is an infinite loop: nobody goes there because there’s nothing in it, thus nothing ever gets added. You can’t fault us for it; our job was giving the community the possibility to build up a repository of information. None of us have the time that would be required to fill this up, though we did add things to it as we could. Thing is, without community involvement, a wiki is fundamentally impossible.
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Well, one thing we have filtered out yet is that people would like to have more some kind of wikipedia design. Some people also want to have the wiki less connected to the T SP site.
About the content, I still trust in my idea it could fill up pretty fast if all server admins are going to help by implenting a link to the wiki to their forums portals.
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I would not bet that this happens - but it might be a possibility that others get more and more known to the Wiki. Wiki design or not - what makes the style for the content being displayed? And making wiki entries is quite different than posting. So i doubt it will get very popular anyway.
There are just too less interest to contribute - thats what i take out of it. Either people dont know how - or like the admins here - have less time to fill it. Another aspect might be that nearly everyone has its own wiki - or databases - that is used. So an overall wiki wouldnt be of any wide interst imo.
Plus: It is there since the beginning of TSP 2.0 as far as i know. Quite a long time. But seldomly have been filled with content. If you ask me - that wont change anytime soon - just because you re-link it to other pages.
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Wouldn’t it actually be worth a try?
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Quite comfortably now
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Also changed formatting.
However, I cannot figure out where to change the ugly white background on the selected radio buttons here: http://the-starport.net/modules/mediawiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=history
If anybody knows…
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w0dk4 wrote:
Also changed formatting.However, I cannot figure out where to change the ugly white background on the selected radio buttons here: http://the-starport.net/freelancer/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=history
If anybody knows…
Google Chrome knows
@common.css line 77:
#pagehistory li.selected {
background-color: #F9F9F9; <–here
border: 1px dashed #AAA;
}
Thanks! 
could have saved me a few hours of headaches today…