Freelancer 2 (?)
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Sci-fi in general is on the backburner at the moment, if you hadn’t noticed. It’s a matter of cycles; hopefully some time in the future we’ll see the pendulum swing the other way and give us a bit more space sims. Surely the market that was there 10 years ago hasn’t disappeared into the aether, right?
Timmy’s right, though, there are a lot of fantastic games being made, you just have to dig a little deeper. AAA was never the market with the best games ever, merely the market with the flashiest and prettiest ones. Take a look at indie titles and smaller devs and you find gems like Minecraft, Magicka, Terraria, R.U.S.E., etc. Some big devs make good games (Ubisoft, DICE, Irrational, BioWare, etc.), but they’re far from the only place to go.
I’ll just disagree on the point of BP, it’s a terrible game even with a good machine
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FriendlyFire wrote:
I’ll just disagree on the point of BP, it’s a terrible game even with a good machineQFT
On the bandwagon note - yeah, there are many great titles if you know where to look for them. Sword of the Stars by Kerberos Productions and Paradox Interactive is a fantastic franchise, and SOTS 2 is just around the corner. (its a hybrid 4X, btw) http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games/sword-of-the-stars-ii
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That’s awesome. BP’s graphics can be good, ofcourse, as said with the correct machine. Mine is rather old already. Although, it plays Freelancer better than my last machine, lol. CCP did an amazing job with Eve. Parts of Eve I did like. It was just the absolute vastness with nothing in it that I didn’t much enjoy. Well, that and when you die, you loose your ship. That was annoying, but for the direction they wanted to go with the game, it worked.
As far as indie game developers versus blatent cash in games by big name companies? Yeah. I’m against that entirely. Cause it floods the market with cheap knockoffs and it just wastes everyones time, money, and patience.
What was said about lots of decent indie games being made and being over shadowed by the above mentioned games? I’ve been feeling that for some time now too. I’ve been hoping and praying for another game that can surpass what I loved in Warzone 2100, as I am for Freelancer. That’s not to say there aren’t games out there that aren’t any good. There are, but they are not Freelancer by any shape of the imagination. I know I shouldn’t really be using FL as my benchmark about what makes a game good or bad, but I want to play something that game me the same level of satisfaction as FL did. I’m sure alot of people feel the same way, since this game hasn’t died over the last ten years. Well, soon to be ten years, my disk says 2003 on it.
I think the most indie game I’ve played in the last 2 years is probably Alien Shooter Vengeance. They did reuse a lot of their own material when it came to making other games and dequals. Like Zombie Shooter 2, Alien Shooter 2: Conscription. I still liked Alien Shooter Vengeance over the other two. Conscription felt more like a beta then an actual final release though. I ended up getting caught in walls, hung up on nothing, all kinds of weird stuff like that. I do like that as mentioned, they are reusing old worlds/maps even “modding” their own material to make new games (though I’m sure for them it’s not modding, since they own the source).
I stated before that the community here on TSP has put out a magnificent amout of content, and still wonder why it hasn’t gotten the spit-shine and dropped into an engine that could better facilitate the current communities needs. I don’t want to sound pushy about this point. “Damn lazy modder community isn’t doing a damn thing to move ahead with a new engine when there’s many to choose from”. That’s not the case at all. Every time I pop by TSP and Mod DB it’s always a treasure chest opening for me. There’s so much good coming from everyone here. I can’t help but want more for everyone. May be greedy of me, but Freelancer will eventually reach it’s limit and that’s going to be a sad day for everyone. Really like what’s happening with FLHook though. That’ll keep it going for a good while yet.
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New Engine is the way to go.
And yes, at first just make a basic freelancer with vanilla features and only then expand.
Kinda this?
new freelancer fan projectAnd yes, I am ready to pay for my favourite game to be alive.
And waiting for galaxy empire ofcourse.
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FriendlyFire wrote:
I’ll just disagree on the point of BP, it’s a terrible game even with a good machineHey, if I’d had to pay for it I’d agree. I just can’t knock all that fun for free.
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It all looks good and just goes to show you all that could and can be done for Freelancer but, it’s just getting the codes to get it started. I would love to see something brand new happen with Freelancer to make it look and have more of the realistic look as some of the newer space sims out today without a drastic change of game play, leaving it as it is now. Nothing is a playable a the Freelancer we know today.
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Grif and Tim,
It is hard to move onto a new game and find it is not as good as Freelancer or the Stalker series.
2 games paid for this year! Nuff said!I have said before I only play SP and the biggest letdown for me is that a storyline for the continuation of Trent isn’t thought out.
If games were added to to make an original game like Freelancer, with a longer story, I’d be willing to pay $100 for it. That is close to most games in Aussie.
And it isn’t the “Pretty” that makes a game good. It’s the re-playability. -
Mirkha wrote:
have you seen this one ? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW6vHgRgTe8About a year or two back I had extensive correspondence with Vice, the creator of Evochron. I helped beta test the latest Legends (before Mercenary). I tried to impress on him that there is a large space sim gaming community that is hungry for something more. I explained that the secret to breaking in is serverability. At the time all the player files were stored on the client PC. He had a decent multiplayer server app, but players could sign on with their existing characters (and all the riches they had accumulated). There was nothing stopping someone from running a server, logging on and enriching themselves through various means, or hacking their player files, then logging on to a community multiplayer server. It would make the idea of a formal persistent MP server unmanageable. He saw my point and made several improvements including encrypting the player files and adding a flag that characters could only be used on the server they were created on. I’m not sure where it all led because my RL issue that separated me from Uber also separated me from Evochron (and no, I wasn’t in jail as Baene has suggested).
I think Mercenary is worth another look. I’m confident that the talent that the Freelancer community has in modding can make Evochron a pretty damn good imitation of Freelancer 2. I’m also certain Vice wouldn’t mind a bit if we modded the crap out of his game, as long we paid for our copies….
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Sledge wrote:
Mirkha wrote:
have you seen this one ? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW6vHgRgTe8About a year or two back I had extensive correspondence with Vice, the creator of Evochron. I helped beta test the latest Legends (before Mercenary). I tried to impress on him that there is a large space sim gaming community that is hungry for something more. I explained that the secret to breaking in is serverability. At the time all the player files were stored on the client PC. He had a decent multiplayer server app, but players could sign on with their existing characters (and all the riches they had accumulated). There was nothing stopping someone from running ….
If Evochron will support custom server and custom mod like Freelancer (To make my change the world LOL), that will be my next turn.
Also LS’s engine and the Unity Fans project.
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No.
you all forget one important fact, Freelancer is awesome because WE MADE IT AWESOME… our memory’s… our clans… our servers… our Community as a whole (yes…even the bad parts)
No game can capture/replace that… EVER
Oh and of course… our Mods… them nifty things that still continue to add to the awesome
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Why485 wrote:
I’m glad I made this. I get to use it anytime there is a Freelancer 2 thread.
I wasn’t really sad about Freelancer 2, but now I am. ;~;
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Why would everyone even want a Freelancer 2?
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I don’t think FL2 would capture the feel of the original game. It’d be more designed for the FPS kiddies, you can see that in the Project Lonestar videos. I’d kill for a proper FL2, but we’re not gonna get FL2, and even if we did, it probably couldn’t even be considered real Freelancer, it’d be more CoD in space.
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MasterofSocks wrote:
Why would everyone even want a Freelancer 2?
I’d rather see a remake of the original FL.maybe just like some guys did for halo, rework the existed engine and add some new function to it will easy thanmake a new game.
BUT, you should know, it’s also means you cannot sell it as a new game.
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Guys, I think it’s a bit too late to still talk of a [mythic] Freelancer 2. If someone actually wanted to make one it would’ve been done ages ago. FL2 is the reason i started learning 3D, because I wanted to be part of the team making it but looks like there’s no team making it , so that sucks.
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Yes, this age old topic comes up every now and then.
We won’t have a Freelancer 2 to be sure, unless someone at Microsoft has some form of awesome aneurysm.
To be honest Freelancer is getting to the point now where there are very few players who aren’t modders and those who do play, play on modded servers and probably mostly for the community.
We have yet to create a mod that shows all the things we have all had a part at some point in doing, that is in my opinion a shame - all our advances are spread across multiple mods.
Most people here still wish for a game like Freelancer or a Freelancer 2 and I think other people have given up and moved on because they have realised it isn’t going to happen.
I personally have played this game on and off over most of the time it has been out, I was a player and a modder. For a smaller MMO this game has been around for the better part of a decade thanks to us, right up there with World of Warcraft but with far fewer numbers.
Its not about the graphics its always been about the community we have so I think its time a collaboration took place, yes we all have different ideas about what a mod should be/have and all that and arguments and incidents have happened.
I want this game to last, there isn’t going to be another unless we make one, with the current state of the gaming genres no company is going to create one for us as its not financially viable when compared to the type of games that are in the mainstream right now (FPS games).
Microsoft doesn’t seem interested in allowing a digital form of Freelancer to be hosted anywhere, my thought was to get it on Steam which I believe there have been comments regarding this.
My other thought was to try and get it on a site such as curse, with its own section and mods able to be hosted and downloaded from there, at least we would have the traffic from people who play WOW and other MMOs with sections on there.
I personally am going to wait until the DX9 modifications are out and then work on something like my original project, my feeling is that this pretty much will be our final attempts. If things get in the way again I don’t think I will have a Freelancer to come back to and at that point it will be truly dead, a game we would just play for the single player or group of close friends on private LAN servers.
I really do not want this to be how Freelancer dies, I really hope I’m not alone in this!
