Unused features

khayman

They turn on/off ambient sounds and interface volume (the lil beep/noise when your mouse moves over buttons)

heres the code for the lot:

[interface]
option = 1894;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;DISPLAY
option = 1334, 2443, -1, true, false, -1, -1;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;RESOLUTION;;;;;
option = 1332, 2444, 30, true, false;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;GAMMA;;;;;;;;;;
option = -1
option = 1896;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;CONTROL
option = 1501, 2447, 50, true, false;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;MOUSE SENSITIVITY
option = 1407, -1, 2, true, false;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;DIFFICULTY SP only
option = -1
option = 1897;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;MISCELLANEOUS
option = 1400, 2449, 100, false, false;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;TOOL TIPS
option = 1401, 2450, 100, false, false;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;ROLLOVER HELP
option = 1495, 1769, 1, false, false;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;TRANSITION SCRIPTS
option = 1555, 1771, 0, false, false;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;AUTOHIDE MANEUVER BAR
option = 1498, -1, 1, false, false;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;COCKPIT

[Audio]
option = -1
option = 1409, 2451, 100, true, false;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;DIALOGUE VOLUME
option = 1336, 2452, 100, true, false;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;SOUND EFFECTS VOLUME
option = 1337, 2453, 100, true, false;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;MUSIC VOLUME
option = 1914, 2456, 100, true, false;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;maximum sound distance
option = 1915, 2457, 100, true, false;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;sound detail level
option = 1411, 2454, 100, false, true, 0, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;INTERFACE VOLUME
option = 1412, 2455, 100, false, true, 0, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;AMBIANCE VOLUME
option = 1918, 1791, 100, false, true, 33, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;USE 3D SOUND

option = 1895, 2446, 100, true, false, -1, -1;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;DETAIL
option = -1
option = 1493, 1774, 100, true, false, 0, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;OBJECT DETAIL
option = 1404, 1775, 100, true, false, 0, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;SPACE DETAIL
option = 1405, 1776, 100, true, false, 0, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;NEBULAR DETAIL
option = 1624, -1, 100, true, false, 0, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;TEXTURE DETAIL
option = 1622, 1777, 100, true, false, 0, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;CUT SCENCE DETAIL
option = 1483, 1778, 100, true, false, 0, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;EFFECT DETAIL
option = 1403, 1780, 100, true, false, 0, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;BACKGROUND STARS
option = 1402, 1779, 100, false, false, 75, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;BACKGROUND DUST
option = 1630, 1772, 100, false, false, 50, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;HUD ANIMATION
option = 1585, 1773, 100, false, false, 50, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;DYNAMIC COM WINDOW
option = 1481, 1781, 100, false, false, 50, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;PLANET ATMOSPHERES
option = 1623, 1782, 100, false, false, 50, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;ENVIROMENT MAPS
option = 1663, 1770, 100, false, false, 30, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;16-BIT DITHER
option = -1
option = 1671, -1, 32, true, false, 0, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;SOUND ELEMENTS
option = 1914, 2456, 100, true, false;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;MAXIMUM SOUND DISTANCE
option = 1915, 2457, 100, true, true, 0, 50;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;SOUND DETAIL LEVEL
option = 1407, -1, 2, true, false;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;DIFFICULTY

DwnUndr

Cool stuff

robocop

Need to check the video section again, space detail is listed twice and difficulty (in general settings) is also listed at the end.

Also you’re listing some sound elements in the section as well.

R

How about this as a final version?

[Interface]
option = 1894 ;DISPLAY
option = 1334, 2443, -1, true, false, -1, -1 ;RESOLUTION
option = 1332, 2444, 30, true, false ;GAMMA
option = -1 ;LINEFEED
option = 1896 ;CONTROL
option = 1501, 2447, 50, true, false ;MOUSE SENSITIVITY
option = 1407, 1797, -1, true, false, -1, -1 ;DIFFICULTY (SP only)
option = -1 ;LINEFEED
option = 1897 ;MISCELLANEOUS
option = 1400, 2449, 100, false, false ;TOOL TIPS
option = 1401, 2450, 100, false, false ;ROLLOVER HELP
option = 1495, 1769, 1, false, false ;TRANSITION SCRIPTS
option = 1555, 1771, 0, false, false ;AUTOHIDE MANEUVER BAR
option = 1498, -1, 1, false, false ;COCKPIT

[Audio]
option = 1409, 2451, 100, true, false ;DIALOGUE VOLUME
option = 1336, 2452, 100, true, false ;SOUND EFFECTS VOLUME
option = 1337, 2453, 100, true, false ;MUSIC VOLUME
option = 1914, 2456, 100, true, false ;MAXIMUM SOUND DISTANCE
option = 1915, 2457, 100, true, true, 0, 50 ;SOUND DETAIL LEVEL
option = -1 ;LINEFEED
option = 1411, 2454, 100, false, true, 0, 100 ;INTERFACE VOLUME
option = 1412, 2455, 100, false, true, 0, 100 ;AMBIANCE VOLUME
option = 1918, 1791, 100, false, true, 33, 100 ;USE 3D SOUND

option = 1895, 2446, 100, true, false, -1, -1 ;DETAIL
option = -1 ;LINEFEED
option = 1493, 1774, 100, true, false, 0, 100 ;OBJECT DETAIL
option = 1404, 1775, 100, true, false, 0, 100 ;SPACE DETAIL
option = 1405, 1776, 100, true, false, 0, 100 ;NEBULA DETAIL
option = 1624, -1, 100, true, false, 0, 100 ;TEXTURE DETAIL
option = 1622, 1777, 100, true, false, 0, 100 ;CUT SCENE DETAIL
option = 1483, 1778, 100, true, false, 0, 100 ;EFFECT DETAIL
option = 1403, 1780, 100, true, false, 0, 100 ;BACKGROUND STARS
option = 1402, 1779, 100, false, false, 75, 100 ;BACKGROUND DUST
option = 1630, 1772, 100, false, false, 50, 100 ;HUD ANIMATION
option = 1585, 1773, 100, false, false, 50, 100 ;DYNAMIC COMM WINDOW
option = 1481, 1781, 100, false, false, 50, 100 ;PLANET ATMOSPHERES
option = 1623, 1782, 100, false, false, 50, 100 ;ENVIRONMENT MAPS
option = 1663, 1770, 100, false, false, 30, 100 ;16-BIT DITHER

Also, I note that the 16-bit dither line doesn’t show up. Perhaps not enough room on the page? I removed the linefeed line from the performance section to get it to scroll up one line but it still didn’t show.

robocop

Yeah, the 16bit dither line needs to be reexamined. Moving it up the list just adds a linefeed to its new location.

I think it works on my laptop for some reason. I seem to recall seeing it there. I’ll check that out next.

khayman

It’s looking good robocop

The bottom few in my post may have been there in the vanilla file or put there when i was trying this out.

option = (ids name), (ids info?/tool tip name?/function?), the next bit depends on the function, like a slider or a check box… i was looking through some .dlls looking for the names and came across both id names and i think it might be character sensitive, but im not sure.

oh yeah the space detail bit should have this:
option = 1404, 1775, 100, true, false, 0, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;SPACE DETAIL
option = 1405, 1776, 100, true, false, 0, 100;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;NEBULAR DETAIL

simple typo, my bad

The difficulty setting may want to look like this:
option = 1407, -1, 2, true, false ;DIFFICULTY SP only
but again im not sure.

***M.o.D.***

great findings thx for sharing

i deleted the linefeeds @ the [Interface] section and added one at the top of the [Audio] section. (it fits better in my eyes)

I changed the dll strings with the help of captain capslock so it looks right.

now it looks very nice

robocop

I recall that the 16 bit dither line worked in the vanilla install of FL but not after the SDK or the JFLP update was applied. I’m gonna try to unbini the original options file to see what comes out.

robocop

OK, here’s the final final…

The 16bit dither line doesn’t appear until you choose a 16bit video setting (and who would do that nowadays anyway…?)

At any rate, I moved that selection box to the General page right below the resolution setting and above the Gamma setting.

Now everything will fit on each page.

Here’s the code:

[Interface]
option = 1894 ;DISPLAY
option = 1334, 2443, -1, true, false, -1, -1 ;RESOLUTION
option = 1663, 1770, 100, false, false, 30, 100 ;16-BIT DITHER
option = 1332, 2444, 30, true, false ;GAMMA
;option = -1 ;LINEFEED
option = 1896 ;CONTROL
option = 1501, 2447, 50, true, false ;MOUSE SENSITIVITY
option = 1407, 1797, -1, true, false, -1, -1 ;DIFFICULTY (SP only)
;option = -1 ;LINEFEED
option = 1897 ;MISCELLANEOUS
option = 1400, 2449, 100, false, false ;TOOL TIPS
option = 1401, 2450, 100, false, false ;ROLLOVER HELP
option = 1495, 1769, 1, false, false ;TRANSITION SCRIPTS
option = 1555, 1771, 0, false, false ;AUTOHIDE MANEUVER BAR
option = 1498, -1, 1, false, false ;COCKPIT

[Audio]
option = -1 ;LINEFEED
option = 1409, 2451, 100, true, false ;DIALOGUE VOLUME
option = 1336, 2452, 100, true, false ;SOUND EFFECTS VOLUME
option = 1337, 2453, 100, true, false ;MUSIC VOLUME
option = 1914, 2456, 100, true, false ;MAXIMUM SOUND DISTANCE
option = 1915, 2457, 100, true, true, 0, 50 ;SOUND DETAIL LEVEL
option = -1 ;LINEFEED
option = 1411, 2454, 100, false, true, 0, 100 ;INTERFACE VOLUME
option = 1412, 2455, 100, false, true, 0, 100 ;AMBIANCE VOLUME
option = 1918, 1791, 100, false, true, 33, 100 ;USE 3D SOUND

[video]
option = 1895, 2446, 100, true, false, -1, -1 ;DETAIL
option = -1 ;LINEFEED
option = 1493, 1774, 100, true, false, 0, 100 ;OBJECT DETAIL
option = 1404, 1775, 100, true, false, 0, 100 ;SPACE DETAIL
option = 1405, 1776, 100, true, false, 0, 100 ;NEBULA DETAIL
option = 1624, -1, 100, true, false, 0, 100 ;TEXTURE DETAIL
option = 1622, 1777, 100, true, false, 0, 100 ;CUT SCENE DETAIL
option = 1483, 1778, 100, true, false, 0, 100 ;EFFECT DETAIL
option = 1403, 1780, 100, true, false, 0, 100 ;BACKGROUND STARS
option = 1402, 1779, 100, false, false, 75, 100 ;BACKGROUND DUST
option = 1630, 1772, 100, false, false, 50, 100 ;HUD ANIMATION
option = 1585, 1773, 100, false, false, 50, 100 ;DYNAMIC COMM WINDOW
option = 1481, 1781, 100, false, false, 50, 100 ;PLANET ATMOSPHERES
option = 1623, 1782, 100, false, false, 50, 100 ;ENVIRONMENT MAPS
[/video]

robocop

Although…
It occurred to me that moving the 16bit dither line from the section (Performance page in the options) to the [interface] section (General page in the options) may cause it to be ignored by FL as it’s not in the section it’s presumably looking for it.

I know that the box is selectable and automatically comes up checked when choosing a 16bit setting but I can’t verify that it actually does what it’s supposed to do in that location.

khayman

The code i posted here was an old copy of the options.ini that i had made ages ago and only just transfered to my new pc from the old one.
My main project mod on the old pc, has the last version that i did and was all working, so when i get around to transfering it, i’ll post that code here. (if its any improvement on this version)
I also found a few more things if memory serves me right, and went through the keylist.ini and keymap etc… i’ll have a quick read back on this thread and check my findings to see if there already listed. If not i’ll post all that too.
i was gonna release this with my mod, but whatever…

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Yeah, 16-bit dither - not noticed. Thx.

***M.o.D.***

just noticed that some audio options are locked while u r ingame.
is there a reason for that?

RimShot

hi, i found my notes about the option param.

option = text, tooltip, default, type, locked, lower bounds, upper bounds

text: displayed text
tooltip: mouseover text
default: default value (if perfoptions.ini doesn’t exist or user clicks default button)
type: control type (true = slider, false = checkbox)
locked: if true the control is disabled in game (note that it will still change if linked to parent control like the DETAIL slider)

the lower/upper bounds need some explanation. this is only for subcontrols as the values are linked to parent control like the DETAIL slider.
for slider 25, 75 means the slider will be at 0 when the parent is at 25 and it will be at 100 when the parent is at 75.
for checkbox it means the range it is checked. if the parent is within the range the checkbox will be checked, outside it will be unchecked.
therefore 50, 100 means the checkbox will be unchecked when the parent goes below 50.

hope this helps and my explanations aren’t too bad.

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Googled but got nothing about it.

In any system ini file under…
[systeminfo] (for what btw?)
or
[object]

we may use
rpop_solar_detection
like true or false

Example is present at st03.ini of Vanilla FL.

You may use also:

[object]
nickname = base1
base = base1_base
dock_with = base1_base
rpop_solar_detection = false
...

```and NPC will not know that object is dockable?
Not tried yet.

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At universe.ini:

ship_sml_01 =
ship_sml_02 =
ship_sml_03 =
ship_mdm_01 =
ship_mdm_02 =
ship_mdm_03 =
ship_lrg_01 =
ship_lrg_02 =
ship_lrg_03 =

What it means? I may see flying ships like asteroids from the bar trough the window?

P.S. Tried just to give ship archetype or asteroid archetype - nothing happens

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Ah. Got it.
We may take from .thn:

template_name = “rtcprop_l_cruiser”

or

template_name = “$ship_lrg_01”
with universe.ini where ship_lrg_01 = rtcprop_l_cruiser

So it is not useful.

Zyos

OFF TOPIC:

Anyone know where to find the mod that has the color scheme the UI uses in khayman’s screenshots on the previous page? The black or dark UI I really like…

ON TOPIC:

Awesome work guys!

cvekiboy

Zyos wrote:
OFF TOPIC:

Anyone know where to find the mod that has the color scheme the UI uses in khayman’s screenshots on the previous page? The black or dark UI I really like…

ON TOPIC:

Awesome work guys!

Here is one in DM Dark Theme - Camera add-on
Gives few more options as-well.
Note: Registration required

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Killablesolars.ini:
solar_type may be:
big_solar ; we know it works
defensive_solar ; -//-
background_solar ;?
killable_neutral ; ?

Solarformations.ini:
type may be:
big_solar_formation ; we know it works
defensive_outpost_formation; -//-
battle_background_formation ; ?
loot_group_formation ; ?

As bonus:
You may add into [KillableSolar] section for example
base = li01_01_base
it will work

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Seems to be addon may contain 4 parameters.
Example:

addon = SlowSmallYellow, HpRunningLight07, 1, mid ; <-- in the center of hp?
addon = SlowSmallYellow, HpRunningLight07, 1, high ; <-- higher?

```Not checked.